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Jaks  posted on Jan 23, 2015 12:58:12 PM - Report post

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Hmm, well, my guess is it's the 970 that's overclocked. I'm actually ok with that though. EVGA has done that on some cards, most notably:

EVGA GTX 780 Superclocked ACX Graphics Card

And were very successful with it from what I've seen.

Are they building this PC or are you building it? What kind of warranty do you get with it?

Drenus  posted on Jan 23, 2015 1:02:51 PM - Report post

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yea, they build and test it, and comes with 2 years FULL warranty, no small letter bull**** like bigger companies does, and on top of that, if a component has to be replaced, its another full 2 years on the replaced part

Jaks  posted on Jan 23, 2015 1:30:19 PM - Report post

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If they're giving you the full warranty on the GPU even if it is OC'd, I'd be ok with that. Like I said earlier, don't be too surprised if somewhere in years 2-4 some new games are pushing the capabilities of the system. You might then consider adding another card in SLI, or just upgrading to a newer card.

I'm not sure of the cables from the PS, maybe with the model number it could be found out though. Or ask them directly. I'd for sure want more than a 550 PS though especially if you're thinking about adding extra drives. 800 or 850 at a minimum I'd think.

[Edited by element5, 1/23/2015 1:33:27 PM]

DABhand  posted on Jan 23, 2015 4:59:14 PM - Report post

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originally posted by KeeperUsiel

"And I think a tank full of mineral oil with a mobo in it classifies you as one"

I disagree, it was more along the lines of "Well, just how far can I take this?" I do that in pretty much every facet of my life so I'd have to be an "enthusiast" of a lot of different things. For example, am I a "dishwasher enthusiast" because I swapped out the drain hose and installed a higher volume drain pump on my dishwasher to drain it faster? Am I an "air conditioner enthusiast" because I swapped out the coils in my AC unit for coils that were more efficient and colder? Or would that make me an "efficiency enthusiast"?

"But for the ordinary user, overclocking isn't a good idea. And I will stick with it."

Again, what data do you have to support this? As I said previously, if you're buying a high end board...the tools are there, provided by the manufacturer. You can literally teach an 84 year old grandmother how to do it and the tools provided by the manufacturer are built around the idea that it must be easy for the most technically illiterate person to accomplish. "Press button, make go fast" mentality level. Further, a company isn't going to offer a product with manufacturer supported performance gains if that process hasn't been tested out the wazoo.

If I went through and charted the amount of system failures I've experienced caused by increasing performance beyond stock versus the amount of systems that did not fail, I know right off the top of my head that the data points would skew heavily toward the "did not fail" category.

You're making an absolute statement and I would like to see that data you have that supports that absolute statement.

An enthusiast does take it further than others, there is nothing wrong with being one. But to be honest what you have done really does make you someone who does it for fun/challenge.

Other than that you have to remember not everyone has top of the line motherboards with high grade materials/metals on board to help with cooling and overclocking.

They see all these people overclocking getting more out of their CPU, RAM and GPUs and they think it would be cool to join that group.

They then just whack the voltage up on the RAM without even knowing the limits their system has or understand the timings on the RAM itself. Then the same with the CPU, especially just with the stock heatsink... which isn't going to help when people whack up the FSB and CPU multiplier in the BIOS.

Can't show you data, I could show you data from unique cases, but you can never show data for everyone. Like

[Edited by DABhand, 1/23/2015 5:00:20 PM]

Jaks  posted on Jan 23, 2015 10:17:02 PM - Report post

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Do you keep a diary or log book of some sort? I don't know how you remember all those details for the last 17 years, but however you do it, it's pretty amazing. I'm lucky to remember what my last PC was and what my current one has. My memory is more like the last 17 weeks. Yours is most impressive.

KeeperUsiel  posted on Jan 26, 2015 9:20:50 AM - Report post

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Thank you! Actually, I don't. Some machines, like the two units I am using as NASes, I remember because they're still in active service. The others I remember because they were "firsts" for me in some way that was meaningful. For example, the ABIT based machine was the first computer that I ever overclocked as well as being the first computer that I ever installed Linux on.

The Intel 850GB based system was the motherboard and processor that I helped to validate and refine when I worked at Intel about 14 years ago. I was really proud of that system and I feel my group achieved quite a lot with it considering we were hampered by issues such as the abysmal Rambus RDRAMs and the first generation Pentium 4 that ran so hot you could literally light a cigarette off of it. It was also the first machine that Intel offered "out of the box" that supported booting from USB devices although it was extremely slow since the USB ports were 1.1 spec.

It also helps that in my line of work it's essential that you keep track of a lot of small details. Of course, that occasionally leads to when you're remembering a config file that you worked on two years ago and are crossing it with a config file you worked on two days ago!

wee_wee  posted on Jan 26, 2015 9:48:12 AM - Report post

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originally posted by element5

Unless I'm reading it wrong, where it says:



I'd say between 850 to 1000 for a Power supply. Falcon put 1000 in my system.

[Edited by element5, 1/23/2015 12:40:13 PM]

800 would be the least i would get that way you get enough power cables for what you are putting in there

Drenus  posted on Jan 26, 2015 9:49:13 AM - Report post

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well, i changed it from a 550, to 650, hopefully that'll be enought

[Edited by Drenus, 1/26/2015 9:49:22 AM]

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