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DABhand posted on Mar 04, 2014 7:13:23 AM - Report post

@lydonb

1. The x64 is native to the OS and doesn't require emulation like 32bit binaries require. Also as said larger RAM size usage, better page file usage through the game also. Also the RAM usage may seem below 4GB but you are forgetting thats not including the GDDR on the GPU. On a 32bit binary both the GPU RAM and DDR RAM cannot be over 4GB, 64bit yes it can.

2. It is a silly idea. You are assuming that everyone running the x64 binary is having problems, but they are not, 32bit binaries working better than the x64 gives an indication that your system is not in tip top condition and so forth.

3. If you understand it then why are you writing nonsense about it. Bottlenecks come in many forms.

Again as for your "Since x64 can handle a larger address than x86, it should be faster, in this case its the opposite." that is for YOU, not for me, it works fine and dandy-o for me as again from others in this thread they have had no problems either.

PC Gaming will never ever be 100% bug free, it is impossible to accommodate for all PC hardware combinations on the market. So some combinations may have adverse effects over others.

So to spout out that it is the x64 binary that is the problem is a bit idiotic, clearly as said by others a lot of others (not everyone) is fine running it. Just because you experience it does NOT mean it is the same for others.

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ServiusTheBear posted on Mar 04, 2014 7:14:25 AM - Report post

quote:

originally posted by monkeybob101

3. He was giving that as an example. Another is an analogy of a PC's components being a chain. The chain being only as strong as the weakest link.

My PC isnt by any stretch Uber, but it is built around all parts being at the same level. Thus I have not had an issue with most of these "new" (read bug filled, rushed & under tested) games.

The whole point of the 64 vs 32 bit is normally so the user can use more RAM (due to most games not using multi-threading), if your running a 32 bit executable when a 64 bit executable if provided & your having memory issues, your shooting yourself in the foot really.

What really bugs me is people spamming their system specs & think that as they have the latest specs they should run everything everywhere without issue. Sorry to say the are far more variables in PC's than your CPU, GFX, RAM & SSD or not.
More often than not it tends to show money has been thrown at the issue in lieu of understanding

Yep. Having the best dosent mean it will always be the best. I can tell ya that.

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DABhand posted on Mar 04, 2014 7:21:45 AM - Report post

quote:

originally posted by Toki

quote:

originally posted by monkeybob101

3. He was giving that as an example. Another is an analogy of a PC's components being a chain. The chain being only as strong as the weakest link.

My PC isnt by any stretch Uber, but it is built around all parts being at the same level. Thus I have not had an issue with most of these "new" (read bug filled, rushed & under tested) games.

The whole point of the 64 vs 32 bit is normally so the user can use more RAM (due to most games not using multi-threading), if your running a 32 bit executable when a 64 bit executable if provided & your having memory issues, your shooting yourself in the foot really.

What really bugs me is people spamming their system specs & think that as they have the latest specs they should run everything everywhere without issue. Sorry to say the are far more variables in PC's than your CPU, GFX, RAM & SSD or not.
More often than not it tends to show money has been thrown at the issue in lieu of understanding

Yep. Having the best dosent mean it will always be the best. I can tell ya that.

All DEM 16GB systems for gaming...

Trololololol

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Clicky Here for them

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ServiusTheBear posted on Mar 04, 2014 7:26:19 AM - Report post

quote:

originally posted by DABhand

quote:

originally posted by Toki

quote:

originally posted by monkeybob101

3. He was giving that as an example. Another is an analogy of a PC's components being a chain. The chain being only as strong as the weakest link.

My PC isnt by any stretch Uber, but it is built around all parts being at the same level. Thus I have not had an issue with most of these "new" (read bug filled, rushed & under tested) games.

The whole point of the 64 vs 32 bit is normally so the user can use more RAM (due to most games not using multi-threading), if your running a 32 bit executable when a 64 bit executable if provided & your having memory issues, your shooting yourself in the foot really.

What really bugs me is people spamming their system specs & think that as they have the latest specs they should run everything everywhere without issue. Sorry to say the are far more variables in PC's than your CPU, GFX, RAM & SSD or not.
More often than not it tends to show money has been thrown at the issue in lieu of understanding

Yep. Having the best dosent mean it will always be the best. I can tell ya that.

All DEM 16GB systems for gaming...

Trololololol

All that is only good if you are doing alot of heavy info shifting, like editing video audio etc.

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SecondLife posted on Mar 04, 2014 11:57:34 AM - Report post

No trouble, worst FPS according to the Benchmark 30fps, average is 50.

System: GTX 770, 16GB RAM, i7-2600K@4.5Ghz.

Runs smooth, i suspect the 590 being the issue here, not RAM or CPU Power. The game barely uses CPU, i can play it smoothly on one core while using the remaining power for video encoding or whatever else.

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Fredster30 posted on Mar 07, 2014 3:42:29 PM - Report post

I've had absolutely no problems whatsoever!
No crashes no nothing!

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Cruelty posted on Mar 18, 2014 2:13:11 PM - Report post

no problems on my end.
Sound is perfect, althought 5.1 or 7.1 sound channels would be great.

Graphics, no problems there, still looks good when i changed the FoV to 110.

Nvidia GTX 660
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16Gb DDR3
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HollyKing posted on Mar 18, 2014 2:47:35 PM - Report post

I had a ton of problems running the game before the new Mantle patch and AMD driver came out. Problem is, now the trainer doesn't work and I have to actually try to be stealthy.

Edit: And the new version is already up. Lifetime membership was a wise choice.

[Edited by HollyKing, 3/18/2014 4:44:41 PM]

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