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    KingEli posted on Jun 25, 2013 4:47:45 PM - Report post
     
    Having 16 gigs of ram should I disable the virtual mem or not? I read many forums and articels but there is no absolute agreement on neither.. maybe just lower the mem in settings? what say you?
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    Neo7 posted on Jun 25, 2013 5:26:19 PM - Report post
     
    I have it disabled on mine without any issues. The only negative I've seen from it is that if you have a Blue Screen of Death, you will be unable create a dump file to analyze later on.
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    KingEli posted on Jun 25, 2013 5:43:31 PM - Report post
     
    If I remember correctly you have much more than 16 gigs right? And can you elaborate on the non issues part? Do you use several demanding apps at the same time? Do you open a lot of internet pages and able to work on them at the same time?
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    Neo7 posted on Jun 25, 2013 8:00:39 PM - Report post
     
    The main thing about web browsers and most programs it that they're most likely 32 bit programs (Meaning they can only have an allocated amount of 4 GB to use to them. When that limit is reached, the pagefile will be used or you will receiving warnings about low memory). A ton of RAM is not required to use a ton of programs at the same time and minimize them and ignore them (you are likely to run out of desktop heap space before your run out of memory).

    With that said I have ran 2 virtual machines with both having 4 GB of RAM allocated to them and played a PC game with no issues. I believe that was the most stress I've put on it and probably will never reach that level of stress on the memory without doing development work requiring application and/or web servers running on localhost.

    By non-issues, it says exactly what's on the tin can. The computer operates how I expect it to be.

    [Edited by Neo7, 6/25/2013 8:02:45 PM]
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    KingEli posted on Jun 25, 2013 8:23:32 PM - Report post
     
    I also run multiple vm's for study purposes nothing major.
    So it's satteld I think I'll get rid of the pagefile for good..
    Thanks.

    btw I ran catzilla benchmark with and without pagefile and I got a higher score without pagefile about 1000 points higher.
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    jackbig posted on Jun 25, 2013 8:48:50 PM - Report post
     
    quote:
    originally posted by kingkob

    I also run multiple vm's for study purposes nothing major.
    So it's satteld I think I'll get rid of the pagefile for good..
    Thanks.

    btw I ran catzilla benchmark with and without pagefile and I got a higher score without pagefile about 1000 points higher.

    ehm not a good idea to disable pagefile totally, since some programs expect a page file is exsistent,and if not pop up a bugsplat

    taken from this site ^^

    www.howtogeek.com/126430/htg-explains-what-is-the-windows-page-file-and-should-you-disable-it/

    [Edited by jackbig, 6/25/2013 8:52:36 PM]

    rofl i went thru that whole other link in this howtogeek thing, and in the end the "test guy" says:

    So, would you recommend I run without a pagefile?

    No.

    Why?

    Because you have to test it yourself to find out.

    IMHO the average user (who is not going to test it) is best served by leaving the pagefile at its default setting of System Managed size.



    Test it yourself…Test it yourself…Test it yourself…

    Yes, I know I sound like a broken record (or a drunk parrot, take your pick). Perhaps there is a reason for that?!

    so yup that's what it's about the testing it yourself

    [Edited by jackbig, 6/25/2013 9:03:51 PM]


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    KingEli posted on Jun 25, 2013 9:11:14 PM - Report post
     
    quote:
    originally posted by jackbig

    quote:
    originally posted by kingkob

    I also run multiple vm's for study purposes nothing major.
    So it's satteld I think I'll get rid of the pagefile for good..
    Thanks.

    btw I ran catzilla benchmark with and without pagefile and I got a higher score without pagefile about 1000 points higher.

    ehm not a good idea to disable pagefile totally, since some programs expect a page file is exsistent,and if not pop up a bugsplat

    taken from this site ^^

    www.howtogeek.com/126430/htg-explains-what-is-the-windows-page-file-and-should-you-disable-it/

    [Edited by jackbig, 6/25/2013 8:52:36 PM]

    rofl i went thru that whole other link in this howtogeek thing, and in the end the "test guy" says:

    So, would you recommend I run without a pagefile?

    No.

    Why?

    Because you have to test it yourself to find out.

    IMHO the average user (who is not going to test it) is best served by leaving the pagefile at its default setting of System Managed size.



    Test it yourself…Test it yourself…Test it yourself…

    Yes, I know I sound like a broken record (or a drunk parrot, take your pick). Perhaps there is a reason for that?!

    so yup that's what it's about the testing it yourself

    [Edited by jackbig, 6/25/2013 9:03:51 PM]

    I read it before that several programs expect to use the pagefile by default but the question asked is why god why?!
    Anyway I guess you're right all I can do is test it myself..
    Thanks bro

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    Neo7 posted on Jun 25, 2013 9:35:36 PM - Report post
     
    quote:
    originally posted by kingkob

    I also run multiple vm's for study purposes nothing major.
    So it's satteld I think I'll get rid of the pagefile for good..
    Thanks.

    btw I ran catzilla benchmark with and without pagefile and I got a higher score without pagefile about 1000 points higher.

    Benchmarks to me mean very little. If it's already performing optimally, any further "improved scores" will look the same to me regardless of the delta on the difference.

    [Edited by Neo7, 6/25/2013 9:35:48 PM]

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