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Slvrbuu  posted on Mar 15, 2012 8:19:48 AM - Report post

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I hope this is the case. It would most certainly make this game one of the best series I've played, if they manage to pull it off. Otherwise, I still like everything before the ending, including the previous two games.
 
Alias117  posted on Mar 15, 2012 8:39:03 AM - Report post

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originally posted by lucious20042002

All i see coming here if indeed there is an extra ending aka if the original endings where 'indoc', is basically this EA once again squeezing more money out of its users, what should have been closure for a lot of fans of this series is, now one of two things, the first being a complete waste of time and effort in the entire series not just me3 or the 2nd being as stated above EA squeezing more money out of people probably with some DLC that basically finishes the game how the community expected it to finish, and with closure to the series.

Thats my thoughts on it

Dude put them in the other thread rather then the speculation thread we have going about indoctrination, please keep the two topics seperate.

 
Alias117  posted on Mar 15, 2012 8:45:25 AM - Report post

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originally posted by Drakonis

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Still don't buy the indoctrination.

If he was indoctrinated, Shep have gone for the option the Reapers wanted him to go for, just like TIM, just like every other person ever indoctrinated.

If he had gone for the destroy option despite being indoctrinated, whichever Reaper was watching over the whole thing could have wiped that hole section out with a swipe of its main weapon before he got near it.

Saying something is this or isn't that at the moment is silly. No one knows for certain except the guys who made the game. Insider information or not, since the last time anyone quoted inside information they were wrong due to supposed "last minute changes."

Of course we don't know right now, but there are lots of little hints for people to speculate. One way or the other I still love the game and I have no hatred or animosity towards Bioware because I was somewhat disappointed in the ending.

In regards to the indoctrination theory, if Shepard chooses synthesis or control he becomes indoctrinated. If he chooses destroy, he is not indoctrinated which is why you see him back on Earth in the rubble taking a breath. This seems to indicate he never was on the Citadel and it was attempted indoctrination.

I've always seen it as the implication being for the control or synthesis ending, Shepard has to give his own life to merge with the Crucible to start the process. Can't become indoctrinated if you're dead.

Though, to be honest, in every ending the Reapers lose. Destroy = they're all destroyed, Synthesis = all synthetics get merged with organics = essentially the Reapers cease to exist, and control = Shepard, or whatever he becomes, gains control over the Reapers, so again they lose.

It'd be kind of silly to indoctrinate the guy then offer him three choices in which they lose every time.

The whole point is that he is not awake during the end we see, but that he is unconcious on the ground after being hit with the energy beam, And the point where he chooses to be disintegrated and in a sense forfeit his life he is indoctrinated, and the choice where he says f... you synthetics and shoots the machine he breakes the indoctrination process and is on the ground and you can see big ben.

 
Skyheart  posted on Mar 15, 2012 8:54:03 AM - Report post

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I never said the indoctrination theory doesn't make sense- it does. I just prefer to think of it another way until BioWare says or proves otherwise is all.
 
Lizml86  posted on Mar 15, 2012 9:14:54 AM - Report post

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It's all a lie, Shepard is still on his way to Eden Prime testing the Normandy SR-1 and had too much Batarian Ale.
 
Drakonis  posted on Mar 15, 2012 10:57:01 AM - Report post

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originally posted by ServiusTheBear

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We're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I already wrote two massive posts a few pages back, so anything I say is just going to be me repeating myself, which I hate to do.

As I said, if it turns out to be an indoctrinated delusion I'm not going to complain as long as they can do it well. I have no problem admitting I'm wrong, but until then, I'm sticking by my own interpretation of the ending.

And you call me delusional!

Yes. Yes I do.

You are indoctrinated


Here is a good video on the whole indoctrination theory, really well done

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbghjn7_Byc&feature=g-u-u&context=G296b84aFUAAAAAAABAA

[Edited by Drakonis, 3/15/2012 10:57:51 AM]

 
ServiusTheBear  posted on Mar 15, 2012 1:39:38 PM - Report post

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originally posted by Drakonis

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originally posted by Skyheart

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originally posted by ServiusTheBear

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originally posted by Skyheart

We're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I already wrote two massive posts a few pages back, so anything I say is just going to be me repeating myself, which I hate to do.

As I said, if it turns out to be an indoctrinated delusion I'm not going to complain as long as they can do it well. I have no problem admitting I'm wrong, but until then, I'm sticking by my own interpretation of the ending.

And you call me delusional!

Yes. Yes I do.

You are indoctrinated


Here is a good video on the whole indoctrination theory, really well done

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbghjn7_Byc&feature=g-u-u&context=G296b84aFUAAAAAAABAA

[Edited by Drakonis, 3/15/2012 10:57:51 AM]

Yes love the Reapers hug and kiss them. Buy them sexy dresses for when you go out to the clubs. All hail EA!!!!!

 
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originally posted by ServiusTheBear

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originally posted by Drakonis

quote:
originally posted by Skyheart

quote:
originally posted by ServiusTheBear

quote:
originally posted by Skyheart

We're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I already wrote two massive posts a few pages back, so anything I say is just going to be me repeating myself, which I hate to do.

As I said, if it turns out to be an indoctrinated delusion I'm not going to complain as long as they can do it well. I have no problem admitting I'm wrong, but until then, I'm sticking by my own interpretation of the ending.

And you call me delusional!

Yes. Yes I do.

You are indoctrinated


Here is a good video on the whole indoctrination theory, really well done

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tbghjn7_Byc&feature=g-u-u&context=G296b84aFUAAAAAAABAA

[Edited by Drakonis, 3/15/2012 10:57:51 AM]

Yes love the Reapers hug and kiss them. Buy them sexy dresses for when you go out to the clubs. All hail EA!!!!!

But I... um... wait...... what?

I've heard of some strange fetishes in my life, but you just topped the list.

What was this topic about again?

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