FIFA 12 Message Board  

Firstly its not a copy of last years trainer, game coding etc have evolved since then, the options are similar yes.

What Caliber was pointing out is that the game itself is basically the same as before, just been updated minutely.

Over the years FIFA has evolved from the old style engine to the one today, but it was never ever totally rewritten it was just reworked.

Anyway, they can take criticism, if its positive and decent enough. There is no one person or organisation that will sit and take highly negative criticism with no basis of fact etc. When people become highly negative it will have that effect on others.

You say "Quality over Quantity".. thats fine and dandy o with products you buy from stores etc, but when it comes to trainers you can only do things to a point and then there is protection methods and anti-cheat programs to contend with so people can use the trainer correctly.

CH doesn't buy every single different copy of FIFA12 out there, that would cost far too much money, so they have what they bought and make a trainer from there. At times it is possible to send in a different region binary (.exe) file that can be looked at to see if a trainer can be given for different regions or distribution methods (steam etc).

And don't forget this has not just appeared on FIFA 12, people have complained about things for a long time and it builds and builds to the point of previous experience shows that you have to nip it in the bud before it gets out of hand.

So to the bigger picture, nobody again is guaranteed a trainer for X or Y game, or X or Y number of options, you can check the agreement you agreed to when paying... and what you paid for is small for what you get.

Again criticism is good, but there is a good way of doing it and a bad way of doing it, unfortunately due to trends of this younger generation mostly it is always usually bad, which in turn hurts everyone else.

when they see same trolling same flaming same *****ing about the trainer OF COURSE THEY NUKE IT. seriously if you dont like the service that the cheathappens team offer why are you still here? anyways to cal, pwizard and the rest of the crew you guys are awesomen dont let the kids get to you just because they are to dumb to read the text files.

there is a very fine line between constructive criticism and complaining and that line has been crossed time and time again since CH came into existence. u have every right to constructively criticize and bring inadequacies to Team CH's attention and to my knowledge they always take it under advisement. but i don't think anyone has the right to be un-grateful and un-appreciative of their hard work and their commitment and make un-substantiated accusations.

do u have any idea how to produce a trainer for a major game release that actually works? or do u have any idea how much time, energy, effort and lets not forget money goes into making a trainer? until and unless u have first hand experience u'll never understand. mistakes do happen and perfection is not possible when u add to it the fact that most game developers do everything humanly possible to prevent u from cheating and train games.

and if Team CH was so opposed to criticism u'd probably have been banned by now. peace out

Thumbs up to you!

[Edited by Ronaldo88895, 10/2/2011 12:23:32 AM]

Another point...

You say the trainer isn't made from scratch, thats ridiculous because...


1. The game coding is different from last years
2. Options have to be refound and recoded for this version of the game, hence why patched games need a new trainer most of the time.

Ok it is similar to FIFA 11's nfo file (text file) doesn't matter if it is a straight copy from last years or not, if the options work similar to last years then it will be noted the same way.

This is what I mean by negative criticism without fact, it's obvious you don't understand the ins and outs of creating a trainer so you have voiced a couple of opinions that is untrue because of this, and people will think hmmm is this guy correct when you are very much incorrect.

EDIT: Edit your post ronaldo, cheers.

[Edited by DABhand, 10/1/2011 11:49:44 PM]

First of all, these are VIDEO GAMES. The idea of blowing a head gasket just cause you can't cheat your favorite game a hour or even a day after its release is just dumb.

Second of all, I can't believe the pretentious attitudes people are throwing at PWizard and Caliber. You really think these are the only complaints they get? They are three people running a huge site (and doing a d*** good job) and they get TONS of complaints and issues EVERY DAY. You guys are complaining about PWiz and Cal being rude etc. when I'm noticing some seriously rude comments made all over these boards. Frankly, you guys really need to realize that this is not something you are obligated to recieve. If PWiz wants to pull a trainer or stop updating one, that's his choice. As for his "attitude", pot/kettle?

/MY two cents.

[Edited by Bes, 10/2/2011 12:04:51 AM]

game coding is different but they used the same method apparently. Do you actually have any experience in finding addresses and pointers and then use a debugger to allocate address space for a jmp and then insert extra codes?

Exactly why people were so angry and I thought Wizard would be more tolerant to people like that because that should be expected.