despite the rejoice of the American people...this is not good.
...well unless your Obama, hello re-election.
Yeah exactly, I have a feeling this is going to do the same kinda thing that capturing Saddam did for Bush.
i don't often post political stuff, since there are many views of the world and situations that arise by our members.
i have not tolerance for liberals and i detest obama and his policies. this democratic government and this president have done more harm in 2.5 years and ran up more debt than any other country in HISTORY (not just US history). americans are waking up to the fact that government and liberal policies and this liberal president are damaging this country and draining their liberty. housing market.. fail- economy.. fail- deficit- fail.. illegal immigration- fail.. energy costs/production- fail... on and on-
with all of that said, the president obviously was involved with this raid and gave it the go ahead, even though this was on pakistani soil. so we should give the president and this administration AND the military personnel directly involved a big kudos for making it happen. i don't often side with the president (obama) but he WAS involved with this, GAVE the order, and therefore deserves a 'job well done' in this instance.
now, i still cannot vote for such a man, as i deeply disagree with his policies and vision for america, as well as the liberals in congress. are we really better off 2.5 years after the election of obama? most americans are saying hell no, and deservedly so. you can have good moments of governing in a massively failing presidency. as the saying goes..
'the roses are not as tall as the manure is deep'
congratulations navy seals and score one for the good guys. no matter how you look at this, murdering 3000+ everyday people as they work in their jobs day to day is wrong and deserves punishment. i am glad that he did not 'surrender', which would have just drug this all out longer and made a mockery.
best,
Cal
Let me say that I haven no reason to support Republicans/Democrats as I'm not even in the USA. The damage was already done by Bush. You can't expect to start 2 wars (on a false cause even) and simply pull out because you got a new President (which would decrease costs considerably). The recession was there when Bush was in office, maybe even before him. You can't blame everything that is wrong with your country on the current President, those things take time to fix.
I liked this approach and it surprised me, we're used to seeing a big number of civilians getting killed but not this time.
I've just seen a photo that says and kinda proves that the leaked photo is edited and fake.
The real one is much messier, definetly not for the news :P
But they may have shown the other one as it is easier to look at if you can say that.
There are about a billion fake pictures that look convincing, but are totally fake. Can you be sure the one you saw wasn't shopped? <_<
Personally if that happened and he turned out to be alive. It would be america's biggest fail. :P
That's ridiculous, there's no way Obama would risk the PR fiasco of something like that. Besides, Bin Laden has now been dead for over a week and now we're just learning of his death? You have to believe that in that down time extensive identity tests were taken.
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They would say that identity tests were taken even if it was fake or true..
The thing is Bin Ladin has been hiding for too long so if it was fake Obama can't get caught easily because I don't think Bin Ladin will come out and go like "Hey! i'm still alive!". So this type of stuff [the faking his death] would only work with people like Bin ladin obviously because it can't work on people we see on everyday t.v.
News have reported binladin's death more than once before, I know this one seems the most realistic but for ME personally I need to see a proof.
Btw, for the topic; Did any of you guys think of the possibility that maybe binladin died before a short period of time (1 month/2months) ago out of illness and America found out about that recently and got his body and claimed that they killed him? I remember there were news 1 or 2 years ago that he was sick..
One thing I learned about this life, it's a crazy ride, anything's possible.
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I think the arguments for him being alive are somewhat credible, especially due to the purposeful lack of evidence, but I doubt Obama would have gone on (inter)national TV to tell the world he was dead if he was either escaped or captured. Too much of a crapstorm if the truth ever got out (bigger than most other crapstorms from other presidential lies).
If he'd been captured, they'd have kept it hushed. Putting Saddam on such a public trial was a big mistake, since it actually stirred up sympathy for him in some groups and made America look like the bad guys.
I'm sorry to tell you this, but America has looked like the bad guys since 'Nam.
Still, Osama is dead, the misguided cause... not so much. You can't just destroy what's been going on for 10 years with one swift strike. This will just teach the next leader some new tricks.
OBL was more than just one man. by evading one of the most technologically advanced nation on earth for more than 10 years he was becoming a symbol of defiance to fanatics across the globe. by killing OBL..it wasn't just about vengence..it was about destroying that symbol too and by not parading the body or giving OBL a burial..it was again a way of not creating a rallying point for fanatics or making a martyr out of him. a standard practice by many civilizations over the course of human history. the US govt. is not obligated to prove to any individual whether the whole thing is fake or real. it did what needed to be done. period.
doesn't mean its the end of terrorism. but its a start. there will always be disgruntled individuals with a mission or a vendetta. its human nature.
The thing is Bin Ladin has been hiding for too long so if it was fake Obama can't get caught easily because I don't think Bin Ladin will come out and go like "Hey! i'm still alive!". So this type of stuff [the faking his death] would only work with people like Bin ladin obviously because it can't work on people we see on everyday t.v.
Sure he would. If he were alive, he would put out some release to the major news media station over there (Al-Jazeera? <_<) like he has done so many times in the past. Your logic is spurious; just because you see someone on television does not necessarily mean that person becomes easy to find.
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