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Rise_Against  posted on Dec 31, 2010 12:24:15 PM - Report post

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originally posted by -Infinity-

thats definitely what i whould do
if you also play on the PC
try Steam , its a real good alternative for retail
and it occasionally has good sales to (85% off on Complete Grand Theft Auto 4 Pack for example )

[Edited by -Infinity-, 12/31/2010 11:31:03 AM]

Steam is not viable here either. We have bad bandwith and internet caps here. I couldn't get very many games with a 3gig a month cap.

toreador  posted on Jan 01, 2011 3:14:08 AM - Report post

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originally posted by Nic_Durron

It depends.

If it's an emulator, and the game being emulated is hard to get a hold of, then I'm fine with it.

Illegally downloading other games, however, is disgusting. I don't care if you're "just seeing if it's worth buying". You could probably download a legal demo easily for a lot of games. Don't make bad excuses.

You're wrong there Nic. A lot of games don't even release demo versions anymore so all you have is the trailer they show you and reviews. I refuse to buy games that way, I play quite a bit and I don't like wasting money on things I end up not using. Not to mention I'm not exactly comfortable financially.
In my opinion, downloading a pirated game to try it out is justified if the company won't release a demo. If you like the game, you buy it and if you don't, you uninstall it and delete the image file.

Louis Cyphre  posted on Jan 01, 2011 4:13:53 AM - Report post

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Piracy is a double edged sword -
I worked for MS on the X-box Live program as it was being prepared and then rolled out in Europe. During that time I got a little insight in how the game industry really works. Till that point I was against piracy but once you learn that the developer does only get a small percentage of the earnings whilst the mamouth ammount goes to the distributer I changed my opinion.

I reserve the right of having a preview of the game I spend a days wage on which the shops nowadays do no longer permit. Since you are no longer entitled to return an item when you find out it is crap the only way to protect your money is by trying the item out through a pirated copy. If I find I like the game then I buy it - otherwise I bin it. Of course there are exceptions - I have a few software houses where I buy the game without trying because I know they will be good.

That is the same with music - I still remember a time when you walked into the shop and you could asked the clerk to listen to a record, even to a specific track before buying it. Those were the days...

[Edited by Louis Cyphre, 1/1/2011 4:14:19 AM]

saurabhfzd  posted on Jan 01, 2011 5:19:34 AM - Report post

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piracy is akin to thievery..but having said that i'll say this: there r serious flaws and imbalances in the gaming industry that need to be corrected to fight piracy. except for those that do it for the kick i believe that most do it out of necessity either because of the price or because of simple un-availability. as far as gaming being either a luxury or a necessity is concerned...well i think that's not for one or two people to decide. its like cell phones that till about a decade or so ago were regarded by most as a luxury but by and by it became a necessity. for a lot many people games r the most convenient way to bust stress from daily tedium...for people like them its a definite necessity. so before we hold moral high-ground and pre-maturely judge other people lets focus more on correcting the flaws and imbalances.
Riingo  posted on Jan 01, 2011 9:28:16 PM - Report post

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I don't pirate. But I wouldn't bat an eye if someone did. I get where they come from. I think companies need to start making a game that is worth the 60 we pay for it.
Degari  posted on Jan 01, 2011 10:29:01 PM - Report post

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I don't pirate games, it's stealing. If I won't do it in real life, I won't do it over the internet. I have been tempted many times over, but those people have worked hard to make these games for our entertainment, and they need to get something in return, so I usually just settle for waiting for a while until the game becomes cheaper. Otherwise, if I really want the game, I'll just borrow money off someone.

But I really won't condemn other people if they pirate, depending on the game. If it's worth the money, then they should buy it. Otherwise in certain conditions, I consider it not ok, but understandable.

Euphoria  posted on Jan 02, 2011 2:04:40 AM - Report post

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Generaly i am against piracy.
But in some cases i can understand users, who feel fooled by publishers and don't want to pay for this. Best example is Ubisoft and Activision.

2010 was first year, where i don't buyed games without played them before. Still don't downloaded the games, just played them @ friends.
Also was first year where i don't buyed any new release except GTA EFLC.
On other site i love indie games so i buyed much more of them this year :> (around 30-40 this year @ steam etc.)

It looks bit different at movies, there i try to borrow me some movies @ video store. And if i like the movie i get DVD/BluRay.

Also till i don't hear many new songs i buy them most time @ amazon as mp3. (maybe 1-2 songs a month)

So in some cases it is ok in my opinion, but not everytime. For example i can't see when people complain about windows and don't even pay for it. But same people buy game like CoD, pay 60$ and play it 10 hours and feel happy. But windows which they use over years is to expensive...

-Infinity-  posted on Jan 02, 2011 8:17:59 AM - Report post

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Well , true
but i pirated my windows
cause it is expensive
given the fact that i re-install windows
over a dozen times a year
and the activation key is for 3 install
it isnt possible to keep paying 90 bucks for another 3 installs
or even more depending on what version you got.
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