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POLL: South Korea to impose the "Midnight Ban"
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    Neo7 posted on Dec 03, 2010 11:16:54 AM - Report post
     
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    I wish I could re-vote, because I just realized that this could end up like China. Government restricting access to site X and site Y.

    Not going to happen. South Korea is willing to give up some privacy for protection (which has worked out quite well for them) but they still have rights that just will not be infringed. If anything could be said about SK restricting access to sites X and Y would be foreigners' access to websites (creating sites where Korean citizens have exclusive access). Many games have their online games exclusive to South Korean residence to help reduce lag on their servers.

    SK wouldn't even have considered this ban at all if it wasn't such a serious problem in SK (where as other nations like the US, we don't see this problem at all except for a small percentage). In South Korea, it's considered normal to go hang out at PC-bangs with friends and just game (where as in America, it's normal to grab a group of friends and go hang out at a mall and what not).

    This also only applies specifically to the PC platform. Services like X-Box LIVE and PSN won't be affected at all (then again, they're not as popular as PC gaming is in Korea).

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    Rise_Against posted on Dec 03, 2010 11:58:17 AM - Report post
     
    SK is starting to sound like my ideal home :O

    But how would they disable PC's only? I thought they disabled the connection entirely?
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    Neo7 posted on Dec 03, 2010 12:10:37 PM - Report post
     
    I believe it's controlled by their log in information through sites that require KSSNs in which they simply look at their profile and the website must deny access to underage users during those hours. I think some ISPs require login to use the Internet in the first place via Internet Explorer which does block the everything (and if an underage person needs to get online for work as previously pointed out, a parent can log in with their account to use to bypass it).

    It's a proposed bill that's still being developed thought so not all details are worked out.
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    Rise_Against posted on Dec 03, 2010 12:20:02 PM - Report post
     
    Like when you use wi-fi at hotels and you have to enter in the login name that you buy?
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    Balseraph posted on Dec 03, 2010 3:25:36 PM - Report post
     
    It's a good idea, people just don't have any control, we've seen it throughout history time and time again, alcohol, cigarettes, gambling, drugs...gaming, whats the next vice we take up. Unless people can learn to control themselves and their impulses such bans are quite necessary in my opinion. Though i believe with proper parental supervision these kinds of things could be avoided. The only downside is people who don't abuse the rights and privileges they are given are also affected.
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    DABhand posted on Dec 03, 2010 8:29:51 PM - Report post
     
    It's a good idea because kids will start getting into the norm of being up late and unable to be awake early, and of course that affects school. I know of a canadian girl I talked to and her son at the time was 14 was up playing Diablo 2 on Bnet most of the night and hardly went to school. Of course in came the fines etc because she couldn't get him to school.

    Also good as it gives power to the parents again, kids are getting away with things for far too long, when a kid can counter a parent's wish to do a chore etc it is met with "I will tell child services that you hit me and they will take me away". Most parent's are afraid of this line and don't want to become the bad parent in others eyes. My sister once did this about 27 years ago because she couldnt get a My Little Pony she told a loudmouth pal at school that my parents used the belt on her, and she told her mother who in turned called child protection services (in the UK) who came around to check up.

    I was 10 at the time and was like "WTF is going on" and was asked are you ok... with me looking at them weirdly as if to say "What are you talking about woman, do I look like I am in distress". Of course my sister came in and the tears started and it was brushed over, and this was before kids had the power they have now.

    On the downside ISP's will love it, no need to upgrade local UBR's/exchanges when most of the bandwith will be cut off from customers at midnight :P

    EDIT: As for how they could do it, the ISP's would sign up people and require the KSSN's as said, and then would have it in their system, when it hit midnight a signal would be sent to the modems and cause them restart and force an upload of a new docsis file if cable or the exchanges would block the ADSL line. 6am and the old docsis file is reupped after a hard reset and exchanges would allow the line to be used again.

    [Edited by DABhand, 12/3/2010 8:33:30 PM]
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    DeathStalker posted on Dec 03, 2010 11:31:23 PM - Report post
     
    as a non-SK citizen, I don't really feel that its my place to say what their government should or should not do. However, if this were legislation in the states, I would be strongly opposed to it. I am usually opposed to babysitter laws that try to manage how a person acts. If it is an act that has direct consequences on others, like drunk driving, then these laws are perfectly acceptable. Unfortunately this same line of thinking can be applied to things such as banning computer gaming. If correlations are made between gaming past midnight and lets say for example impaired school performance. Then arguments could be made that late night and or excessive gaming could lead to an individuals underachievement and costs the state money.

    Not saying this is the case, but arguments could be made for it. Like seat belt laws.Why should I be fined for not wearing a seat belt? If I fly out of my car and explode my skull, I am only hurting myself? However, I am also hurting my employer, the work force, and or even putting my family on government benefits because of a loss of income for them.

    Will be interesting to see how this pans out. I cant see it going to far, but I also don't know much about SK politics.

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    Shibby posted on Dec 04, 2010 12:23:44 AM - Report post
     
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    So a ban on the internet for all users under the age of 18 during night time hours.

    Someone's never crammed for a test or rushed to finish a paper. The internet is used for more than gaming, and cutting it off for that reason alone seams like using a hammer when you need a scalpel. In addition, the idea of having to log on with my social security number where my internet use could be tracked just seems like a step in the opposite direction of personal freedom, a trend that is becoming all too common.

    Cramming can easily be done with books.

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