42N8Son said: I completely agree. Oblivion is THE best RPG ever made next to Morrowind. There's more detail in Oblivion than there is in Fallout 3/NV as well. All the shops, taverns, and hotels are so elegant in their design. Fallout is just a drab world (and I understand that's the way it's supposed to be because it's a post apocalyptic world) but there's so many unusable broken terminals and filing cabinets laying around it makes everything so repetitive looking.
That's a preference in how you liked the games. Many will say the opposite. I liked Oblivion and Fallout about the same, but they're totally different in styles, considering one is medieval and the other a futuristic apocalyptic wasteland survival grind.
Also, Fallout NV isn't supposed to have been hit with any WMD atomic bombs so why do 99% of the building interiors look just like Fallout 3 building interiors with all the debris clutter? They should have created a more "clean" look in Fallout NV but they were too lazy and cheap so they just re-used the same crap from the Fallout 3 world that was destroyed by WMD atomic bombs.
Well, it was explained that the periphery of Vegas was hit with bombs while the actual downtown area only suffered minor damage and effects from the nuclear attacks, so it is fitting. Downtown is certainly much cleaner looking than the rest, but it isn't immune to the disasters of the surrounding areas, so it needs food water and other items brought in that can degrade the looks. It is a post-apocalyptic setting, so everything cannot be pristine.
I guess some folks just like all the guns and explosives in the Fallout 3/NV world and aren't interested in magic, swords, and just natural exterior beauty (trees, streams, lakes, rivers, flowers, mountains).
Well, that is just preference on your part. Some people like guns and bombs and other what you like, I like both in RPGs as that is a good variance for the genre. It is supposed to be drab and I doubt that in the real world that we'd still have greenery going on in a post-nuclear attack milieu. If you like mages, magic, swords, etc, then you'd like Dragon Age: Origins. Dragon Age blows away Oblivion hands down for gameplay and it is much longer to play. It isn't a pretty, but overall, I would rate it the best RPG I have played to date. What I mean by overall is everything regarding an RPG, story, graphics, gameplay, etc. If want to categorize, IMO; Mass effect is the best story ever, DA:O has the best gamplay, Oblivion is the prettiest. Fallout has the best elements of a shooter RPG build.
I also have to say that the HGEC female and Roberts body mods for Oblivion OWN the models of Fallout 3/NV by far even if you use HiRes Type 3 females and Breeze's male body mods for Fallout. Too many body seams (neck especially) and the bodies are so plain looking and unsexy. The female body mods of Oblivion are awesome and even allow breasts and butts to slightly bounce and jiggle while walking/running/jumping. It's just so awesome and realistic looking. Other graphical mods add depth of field, blur, and other visual effects that make the Oblivion world look VERY realistic compared to Fallout. Of course Oblivion has been around a lot longer than either Fallout 3/NV so it has had the edge in regards to mods and mod content but just comparing Fallout 3/NV to Oblivion vanilla I'd still prefer the sword/magic/natural beauty setup over guns and explosions and drab game world any day.
The game engine still puts out the graphics and to be honest, I don't see anything spectacular with the best of Oblivion's mods that Fallout 3 has as well. There are mods for 3 that are more detailed than the ones you listed for Oblivion by their respective creators. If you're into nude mods, there's a guy who made one really detailed, and I like it big time. IF you want to see detailed people mods and graphics, Dragon Age blows them all away. The character models in Bethesda games have always been funny looking, lacking any detail. But Dragon Age is incredible looking for the people. But Bioware excels at that.
There's so many games that already have guns and explosions in them already that are much better than Fallout 3/NV could ever hope to achieve. It's only real asset is the extreme gore that most other gun/explosive games don't tend to render. But even Fallout NV copied over the same gore and limb severing features of Fallout 3. They didn't even add the option for groin shots that were available in Fallout 1 and 2. All Fallout NV really is - is just a new game world that reuses 99% of the world content of Fallout 3. And it's so buggy that people would be better off just buying and playing Fallout 3.
I agree there's are a lot of games with guns and explosives, but we live in modern times and most folks prefers those kinds of games; that's why shooters are the biggest selling genre in gaming today. I agree that Vegas is a rehash of 3 and I pretty much got bored with it when I expected at least some differences from even the first two games.
Fallout 3 was at least innovative in the series and that's why i liked it so much. Keep in mind when you mention bugs, Oblivion was a mess when it was released and Fallout 3 was bad, but Vegas takes the cake. Fallouts 1&2 were pretty bad, but that's says more about the devs QA processes. For the most part, the same people that did Vegas did 1&2 as well.