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Villan Poll Gold Medalist - Darth Vader
 
saurabhfzd  posted on Aug 14, 2010 11:22:08 AM - Report post

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True, but he lacked the true lust for power.

Voldemort was pure evil. Not a bit of good in him.

Vader was not pure evil. He felt grief when Padme died.

I'm a fan of both SW and HP, and in terms of evilness Voldemort wins hands down. Vader is more iconic, but Voldemort was evil from being a child. Anakin was a pure-hearted boy.

since u put it that way...i concede the argument. Lord Vader has this aura about him...very regal..a sophisticated evil i think. like the medieval knights(not saying they were all evil). just in his conduct.

 
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True, but he lacked the true lust for power.

Voldemort was pure evil. Not a bit of good in him.

Vader was not pure evil. He felt grief when Padme died.

I'm a fan of both SW and HP, and in terms of evilness Voldemort wins hands down. Vader is more iconic, but Voldemort was evil from being a child. Anakin was a pure-hearted boy.

since u put it that way...i concede the argument. Lord Vader has this aura about him...very regal..a sophisticated evil i think. like the medieval knights(not saying they were all evil). just in his conduct.

Vader does have that about him. Of course, he's a former knight himself.

Still, he doesn't strike enough fear into people's hearts for his name to be taboo.

 
nailan  posted on Aug 14, 2010 11:56:36 AM - Report post

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originally posted by saurabhfzd

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originally posted by Nic_Durron

True, but he lacked the true lust for power.

Voldemort was pure evil. Not a bit of good in him.

Vader was not pure evil. He felt grief when Padme died.

I'm a fan of both SW and HP, and in terms of evilness Voldemort wins hands down. Vader is more iconic, but Voldemort was evil from being a child. Anakin was a pure-hearted boy.

since u put it that way...i concede the argument. Lord Vader has this aura about him...very regal..a sophisticated evil i think. like the medieval knights(not saying they were all evil). just in his conduct.

Vader does have that about him. Of course, he's a former knight himself.

Still, he doesn't strike enough fear into people's hearts for his name to be taboo.

I am going to have to disagree. Vader stuck fear into most of the galaxies heart.
valdamorts name being taboo was not for fear of the man but fear of the magic.
And I agree with him being more evil and a better villain than Vader.

I have a question was this poll strictly about being the best villain or was it popularity? can I get the topics starters opinion specifically please?

 
saurabhfzd  posted on Aug 14, 2010 11:58:08 AM - Report post

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originally posted by Nic_Durron

True, but he lacked the true lust for power.

Voldemort was pure evil. Not a bit of good in him.

Vader was not pure evil. He felt grief when Padme died.

I'm a fan of both SW and HP, and in terms of evilness Voldemort wins hands down. Vader is more iconic, but Voldemort was evil from being a child. Anakin was a pure-hearted boy.

since u put it that way...i concede the argument. Lord Vader has this aura about him...very regal..a sophisticated evil i think. like the medieval knights(not saying they were all evil). just in his conduct.

Vader does have that about him. Of course, he's a former knight himself.

Still, he doesn't strike enough fear into people's hearts for his name to be taboo.

i seriously doubt there was anyone in the empire who didn't fear him..but..yea not in the way that'd make his mention taboo.

 
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Well heres a thought:

Voldemort was evil to the core, there was no other way for him to be, so he was just following his nature etc

Vader was a good person doing things just as evil as Voldemort

Which is more evil? Personally I think good doing evil is more evil than evil being itself, if that makes sense.

Besides, Voldemort just sucks, he has no presence.

 
saurabhfzd  posted on Aug 14, 2010 9:38:42 PM - Report post

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Well heres a thought:

Voldemort was evil to the core, there was no other way for him to be, so he was just following his nature etc

Vader was a good person doing things just as evil as Voldemort

Which is more evil? Personally I think good doing evil is more evil than evil being itself, if that makes sense.

Besides, Voldemort just sucks, he has no presence.

well..i think the reason for that could be the fact that George Lucas was a genius at putting a spin on things and also due to the fact that SW has had more time to evolve into a mega epic which imparts their characters a larger than life figure. compared to that HP has had far less time and maybe Rowling couldn't raise the bar of putting a spin on things.

 
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Well heres a thought:

Voldemort was evil to the core, there was no other way for him to be, so he was just following his nature etc

Vader was a good person doing things just as evil as Voldemort

Which is more evil? Personally I think good doing evil is more evil than evil being itself, if that makes sense.

Besides, Voldemort just sucks, he has no presence.

well that is an excellent point except, Vader was not good. He was never really "good"
well maybe as a child But most children start off good anyway. Even Voldemort was not evil as a child. He did lean that way as he got to his teens.
Vader/anakin chose to follow the path of the darkside. The emperor Did not have to push hard to get him over. I mean he really didnt do anything. he basically told him the benefits of being on the dark side. And bam anakin follows. It was his own choice. But while he was evil He was not as evil as Voldemort.
And the acts Vader commited were evil done by an evil man But not the most evil man. The emperor was in fact more evil than Vader.

So in conclusion I still say Voldemort was in fact More evil and a better villain. But I am not much of a fan Of Voldemort. I thought His character was weakly written which is a surprise considering the detail that went into the other characters. And Voldemort was The second Major character. Maybe If They had Alan rickman, Jason Isaacs, or Gary Oldman play him in the movies then at least His movie representation might have been a little better as IMO all are great villian actors. (funny how 2 of them were actually the good guys in this series)

And to say again. I like star wars. I like harry potter. I have seen all the movies for both several times. I have read the potter books numerous times. I have read several of the SW books. I am a fan of both. I am not trying to knock either.

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