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Sentient life.
 
fault2k  posted on May 01, 2010 1:09:26 PM - Report post

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I don't want to start another speculative deep space topic, those are usually predictable and don't turn out that interesting. Let's say another form, or forms of sentient life suddenly start showing up on our planet. It doesn't matter where they come from or what kind of features they have, (As in giant space monster to more humanoid looking aliens) I want different kinds of feedback, but basically what do you think would occur if we weren't the only sentient beings on the planet anymore?


This topic is more likely then not the result of to much time to speculate, discuss.

(Whoopsie, used to clicking on OTD, my bad)

[Edited by fault2k, 5/1/2010 1:24:09 PM]

 
Foxxie-kun  posted on May 01, 2010 1:32:50 PM - Report post

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It's bound to happen eventually.

All life on Earth came from single-celled organisms to which Oxygen was toxic, and as they died out as the Oxygen-producing organisms began to spread and develop, new life came from those that adapted and survived to become indifferent to or dependent upon Oxygen to survive.

Several thousand years down from there, and here we are, destroying our environment with reckless abandon (Don't get me started on that oil rig that exploded. The slick is going to hit Louisiana, Georgia, Mississippi, etc. hard which will kill the availability of fresh shrimp and other shellfish caught in the region...). It's only natural that evolution dictates that new sentient life, be it terrestrial or otherwise, develop to oppose us and our destructive ways.

Not within our lifetime of course, it's a gradual process. We were, of course, once confined to using stone, bone, wood, and naturally occurring items to make our lives easier. Spears of wood or bone tipped with sharpened stone, eating our meat raw with no means to cook it with. Honestly, I wouldn't doubt that the next sentient life came from lupine, vulpine, or feline origins due to their intelligence as of right now. Maybe even equine.

But I digress, it's inevitable that we're going to have to share the planet with more sentient species within the next few thousand years.

 
fault2k  posted on May 01, 2010 1:41:42 PM - Report post

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I agree, Sea dwelling mammals such as the dolphin seem especially intelligent, I see no reason why they couldn't continue to evolve and change in the future. Intelligent beings, terrestrial or otherwise as you said, are bound to change the way we hold our-selfs if (when) they show up. There will most likely be warfare and segregation, among other things. But as you said that's more then likely very far off.

[Edited by fault2k, 5/1/2010 1:42:11 PM]

 
LifeOfGaming  posted on May 01, 2010 1:46:29 PM - Report post

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I doubt we will.

The way we treat our planet now, I'll bet sentient species frown upon us and look somewhere else.

Unless we start taking care of this Earth, it will barely make it past the year 3000. Heck, it could die out before then. With all of our factories releasing the toxins, the oil rig off the coast of Louisiana (which has sprung a third leak underwater and, for some ridiculous reason, cannot be mended to at this time), and all of the species that are endangered are in the biggest threat of the world.

Not to mention, my generation of people, with all the obesity, will most likely die off before our parents. I'm not obese or even overweight. But for those of you that are, Death is staring you in the face. Mocking you.

At the same time, maybe those sentient species will help us out some. If they're not hostile. But they have every reason to be. Don't you agree?

**By sentient species, I mean space aliens.

[Edited by LifeOfGaming, 5/1/2010 1:47:53 PM]

 
Paradox  posted on May 01, 2010 1:47:58 PM - Report post

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I doubt humans will live to see it. Evolution is a very slow process, and nothing will evolve if there isn't a need for it. Dolphins, for example, are doing decently as a species. Natural selection cannot eliminate the dolphins that have a lower level of intelligence, as intelligence doesn't carry too much of an advantage.

Dolphins are doing just fine as they are, so they will not change. Nothing will change until there's a need for it.

 
LifeOfGaming  posted on May 01, 2010 1:52:24 PM - Report post

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Therefore, I doubt the homo sapien sapeins will grow gills and/or wings over the next thousand years, if our species lives long enough, anyway.

With over-population, this world is going to crumble eventually. And I'm not talking about 2012 (how many of you agree with that accusation, btw?), I'm talking much worse. Where wild animals go insane, killing each other off in a struggle for survival as our needs grow more and more with each born baby. We've had to cut down numerous forests, nearly killed off many species (and somehow managed to revive them), and contain species. Do you honestly think that cute little otter enjoys that cage where it's away from it's family?! And if it's born into it, it doesn't know any other world than inside that cage. Face it, we humans are greedy and ignorant; naturally.

 
fault2k  posted on May 01, 2010 1:55:07 PM - Report post

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quote:
originally posted by Paradox

I doubt humans will live to see it. Evolution is a very slow process, and nothing will evolve if there isn't a need for it. Dolphins, for example, are doing decently as a species. Natural selection cannot eliminate the dolphins that have a lower level of intelligence, as intelligence doesn't carry too much of an advantage.

Dolphins are doing just fine as they are, so they will not change. Nothing will change until there's a need for it.

That's a decent point but it doesn't really have the possibility to be backed by evidence. We've only been able to come up with theories like these for the past few hundred years or so, that's not long enough to make a definitive statement. Us as human beings didn't need to evolve from living in caves and hunting and gathering, yet are intelligence continued to grow rapidly, in remarkable time. In several thousand years we went from living in huts and shacks and stone buildings to where we are now, and not entirely out of necessity.

As for your point of view, LifeOfGaming, Human's are a very versatile species, I don't think we'll die off that easily, we will do what we have to do to survive, even if it isn't pretty.

[Edited by fault2k, 5/1/2010 1:55:56 PM]

 
SuperSkyline89  posted on May 01, 2010 1:58:59 PM - Report post

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originally posted by LifeOfGaming

I doubt we will.

The way we treat our planet now, I'll bet sentient species frown upon us and look somewhere else.

Unless we start taking care of this Earth, it will barely make it past the year 3000. Heck, it could die out before then. With all of our factories releasing the toxins, the oil rig off the coast of Louisiana (which has sprung a third leak underwater and, for some ridiculous reason, cannot be mended to at this time), and all of the species that are endangered are in the biggest threat of the world.

Not to mention, my generation of people, with all the obesity, will most likely die off before our parents. I'm not obese or even overweight. But for those of you that are, Death is staring you in the face. Mocking you.

At the same time, maybe those sentient species will help us out some. If they're not hostile. But they have every reason to be. Don't you agree?

**By sentient species, I mean space aliens.

[Edited by LifeOfGaming, 5/1/2010 1:47:53 PM]

We can't kill our planet, to think we can is arrogant.

We can kill ourselves off, we can kill other species, but the Earth will just shrug us off and continue without us.

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