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Could God Sin? (part two)
 
Dhampy  posted on Mar 31, 2010 9:14:25 PM - Report post

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God is the Administrator
Administrators have no rules.
Therefore God cannot sin.

He has no rules, therefore he is limited by the rules of morality?

Uhh...

[Edited by Latiosmaster47, 3/30/2010 6:29:55 PM]

Why would a divine being be limited by a human construct?

 
lucebuce  posted on Mar 31, 2010 9:19:31 PM - Report post

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Then why did the divine being give humans the ablility to construct and compare ?
 
Neo7  posted on Mar 31, 2010 9:27:29 PM - Report post

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It helps build who you are. You can have all the morals and rules of any religion, but they will never define "who you are". That's for you to decide.

I think it helps with dreams and your imagination as well. When you dream, you have the same power as God even if you don't realize it though this power is limited to a restricted area (the dream itself). What's special about a dream though is that it does not affect anyone at all. In this way, religious people feel a little closer to God since they can see how things can change to their will at an instant.

Even now I'm simply taking variables about what ifs and what nots and seeing how they would play out in universe control. This explanation was done through constructing a theory and comparing it to religion in general.

[Edited by Neo7, 3/31/2010 9:28:48 PM]

 
Latiosmaster47  posted on Mar 31, 2010 9:29:07 PM - Report post

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originally posted by Neo7

God is the Administrator
Administrators have no rules.
Therefore God cannot sin.

He has no rules, therefore he is limited by the rules of morality?

Uhh...

[Edited by Latiosmaster47, 3/30/2010 6:29:55 PM]

Why would a divine being be limited by a human construct?

Well he wouldn't be.

I was pointing out that Neo's argument didn't seem to follow logically.

 
infinite_gamer  posted on Mar 31, 2010 10:56:32 PM - Report post

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I think some people are forgetting something...

God created lucifer,the angel of light. God favored him above all others. God cast him out of heaven for wanting the same thing as god.
God favored something above all else,that shows imperfection.
I know,not a sin. God also is responsible for creating evil.
By casting lucifer out of heaven,he created satan.
So,yes. in my opinion god not only is well and able to sin,but,is sin.

 
jediIStheWAY  posted on Apr 01, 2010 1:47:55 AM - Report post

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God knows everything. God knows everything that will happen in the future. So God knew that Lucifer would have betrayed him. This means God would have wanted Lucifer to become Satan. I'm going to use the old Christian defence, God created evil to test us.

In my understanding, evil and sin are hand in hand. That's just to clarify things. Yet could we as imperfect human beings be able to live without evil and sin?

One thing I think some people fail to see is that all the holy scriptures have been interpreted by other people, they have interpreted it to there convenience. St Paul did say that the government was chosen by God. This in my eyes was an easy way to make people obey laws, and more importantly try and get the Romans to take up Christianity and legalise it.

The inconsistent triad. The three traits of God that most Christians share in common belief. Can God be all good while being all powerful. If God was all powerful would God be able to do evil things, yet that would mean God is not all good. Yet if God was all good, God would not be able to be all powerful, there would be limits to God's power.

You can say that God is all powerful yet God chooses to do no evil things. Yet Jesus said in the bible, specifically the sermon on the mount. That the intent of evil is as bad as doing the evil.

Yet I would like to say here, that if God exists, it would be a being completely out of understanding. And us as humans would have no chance of being able to comprehend it's actions or its being.

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