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A tanning tax? Wow. Snooki's in trouble lmao. Anway, i want to see how this all works out.

I also want to see if there will be a walking tax.

Another thing is in the middle of all these problems, U.S. is still thinking of improving the Capital, adding some hi-tech stuff in the vicinity.

[Edited by onmosis36, 3/23/2010 8:40:17 PM]

I know. The NHS in Britain runs at a cost of £100 Billion a year to the people.

And that's only care for 64 million people. At that rate, it'll cost $750 billion a year for America to provide the same level of care to every citizen, which is the goal.

On top of that, getting the program started is going to take a hell of a lot of money. America already has less than no money at all. Who the **** is going to pay for it all?

I'm all for a national healthcare service. But if the country can't pay for it, they shouldn't even be considering it.

[Edited by AdmiralThrawn, 3/23/2010 10:41:00 PM]

Who's going to be paying for it? The people are through taxes.

We'll just have to see how the legal charges play out...it doesn't sound like anyone knows what's going to happen regarding that yet.

Don't forget to mention that NHS is the most rationed of all health care programs and that many of the "experimental" treatments that we take for granted in the US are not available in Britain and the Britons who can afford it travel to the US for needed procedures.

And Britain has been slowly, over the last twenty years, scaling it back, privatizing it, trying to get rid of it because it is an unholy monstrosity of a mistake.

There are better ways than throwing money into the toilet and flushing it down.

If anyone thinks that they'll be given anything labeled "controversial" or "experimental" under Obamacare, they're nuts.

Medical advancement has only ever happened in a for-profit setting, which means Costa Rica will become the medical research center of the world.

But everyone is missing the point.

People are mad not because of what the bill says--but because it was passed.

Between 60-70% of people in polling vehemently opposed this bill. Congress passed it anyway.

Congress is supposed to govern with the consent of the governed.

However, now it is clear that Congress is content to RULE over the people.

The 70% majority are being ****ed on by a Congress who isn't thinking this through, but are doing everything they can to "get back at" the last forty years of Congresses.

They are legislating not for the people or out of an intellectual position--but out of revenge.

THAT is why this is a big deal. THAT is why now 70% of America is royally ****ed off. THAT is why we're now closer to real civil unrest than we ever have been before--not even in the Civil War was there actual unrest among the people. THAT is why 37 states are blocking themselves from it.

If there aren't bombings and assassinations in the next few years, I will be extremely surprised.

The problem with health care was never quality or access or anything like that.

But COST!

And now it will cost several orders of magnitude MORE.

Have they increased the size of the plan?