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Posted: Mar 23, 2010 8:34:04 PM - Report post  (0)  (0)       Post Reply  post reply  

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The bottom line as to why so many people are against this is Government control. And now, the Government controls our health care. And its not going to stop with health care...soon the Government will get bigger and bigger and bigger. This is how a Government slowly takes over a country.

I mean they already tried to take away our guns. Thank God the Supreme Court voted 5-4 on that one.

And Obama just placed a tanning tax. Out of all things. A TANNING TAX! Reminds me of...you know...things like. The tea tax. Paper tax, etc...etc...

A tanning tax? Wow. Snooki's in trouble lmao. Anway, i want to see how this all works out.

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Posted: Mar 23, 2010 8:39:50 PM - Report post  (0)  (0)       Post Reply  post reply  

I also want to see if there will be a walking tax.

Another thing is in the middle of all these problems, U.S. is still thinking of improving the Capital, adding some hi-tech stuff in the vicinity.

[Edited by onmosis36, 3/23/2010 8:40:17 PM]

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Posted: Mar 23, 2010 10:33:42 PM - Report post  (0)  (0)       Post Reply  post reply  

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My view on this matter is that I know just enough about politics to safely say I have no clue what this bill is going to do. Also, now all my friends are going to scream and shout that the sky is falling when I know for a fact that they know just as little about this bill as I do.

I know. The NHS in Britain runs at a cost of 100 Billion a year to the people.

And that's only care for 64 million people. At that rate, it'll cost $750 billion a year for America to provide the same level of care to every citizen, which is the goal.

On top of that, getting the program started is going to take a hell of a lot of money. America already has less than no money at all. Who the **** is going to pay for it all?

I'm all for a national healthcare service. But if the country can't pay for it, they shouldn't even be considering it.

[Edited by AdmiralThrawn, 3/23/2010 10:41:00 PM]

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Posted: Mar 23, 2010 11:41:50 PM - Report post  (0)  (0)       Post Reply  post reply  

Who's going to be paying for it? The people are through taxes.

We'll just have to see how the legal charges play out...it doesn't sound like anyone knows what's going to happen regarding that yet.

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Posted: Mar 24, 2010 7:18:36 AM - Report post  (0)  (0)       Post Reply  post reply  

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 quote:
 originally posted by Latiosmaster47:

My view on this matter is that I know just enough about politics to safely say I have no clue what this bill is going to do. Also, now all my friends are going to scream and shout that the sky is falling when I know for a fact that they know just as little about this bill as I do.

I know. The NHS in Britain runs at a cost of 100 Billion a year to the people.

And that's only care for 64 million people. At that rate, it'll cost $750 billion a year for America to provide the same level of care to every citizen, which is the goal.

On top of that, getting the program started is going to take a hell of a lot of money. America already has less than no money at all. Who the **** is going to pay for it all?

I'm all for a national healthcare service. But if the country can't pay for it, they shouldn't even be considering it.

[Edited by AdmiralThrawn, 3/23/2010 10:41:00 PM]

Don't forget to mention that NHS is the most rationed of all health care programs and that many of the "experimental" treatments that we take for granted in the US are not available in Britain and the Britons who can afford it travel to the US for needed procedures.

And Britain has been slowly, over the last twenty years, scaling it back, privatizing it, trying to get rid of it because it is an unholy monstrosity of a mistake.

There are better ways than throwing money into the toilet and flushing it down.

If anyone thinks that they'll be given anything labeled "controversial" or "experimental" under Obamacare, they're nuts.

Medical advancement has only ever happened in a for-profit setting, which means Costa Rica will become the medical research center of the world.

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Posted: Mar 24, 2010 7:29:04 AM - Report post  (0)  (0)       Post Reply  post reply  

But everyone is missing the point.

People are mad not because of what the bill says--but because it was passed.

Between 60-70% of people in polling vehemently opposed this bill. Congress passed it anyway.

Congress is supposed to govern with the consent of the governed.

However, now it is clear that Congress is content to RULE over the people.

The 70% majority are being ****ed on by a Congress who isn't thinking this through, but are doing everything they can to "get back at" the last forty years of Congresses.

They are legislating not for the people or out of an intellectual position--but out of revenge.

THAT is why this is a big deal. THAT is why now 70% of America is royally ****ed off. THAT is why we're now closer to real civil unrest than we ever have been before--not even in the Civil War was there actual unrest among the people. THAT is why 37 states are blocking themselves from it.

If there aren't bombings and assassinations in the next few years, I will be extremely surprised.

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Posted: Mar 24, 2010 9:16:03 AM - Report post  (0)  (0)       Post Reply  post reply  

The problem with health care was never quality or access or anything like that.

But COST!

And now it will cost several orders of magnitude MORE.

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Posted: Mar 24, 2010 10:08:24 AM - Report post  (0)  (0)       Post Reply  post reply  

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The problem with health care was never quality or access or anything like that.

But COST!

And now it will cost several orders of magnitude MORE.

Have they increased the size of the plan?

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