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AdmiralP  posted on Nov 12, 2012 9:38:54 AM - Report post

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originally posted by Rick_Terminal

Has anyone managed to get this trainer working on windows 8 (Steam/d2d version)? I pm'd Caliber but he said it had already been updated - last I can see it was updated was dec last year. Okay, so updated for the latest patch, but not the OS?

Understandable, as it is an old game - still if anyone has managed to get it to work on Windows 8 64 bit I'd appreciate a post or pm

I've tried the various compatibility modes on the shortcut (and "run as administrator" but it crashes straight away.

If anyone understands the stuff below... Good for you! Can you translate?

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: dao-Rick_Terminal.exe
Application Version: 0.0.0.0
Application Timestamp: 4ecfa878
Fault Module Name: URLMON.dll
Fault Module Version: 10.0.9200.16420
Fault Module Timestamp: 505a9194
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 00087960
OS Version: 6.2.9200.2.0.0.768.101
Locale ID: 2057
Additional Information 1: 5861
Additional Information 2: 5861822e1919d7c014bbb064c64908b2
Additional Information 3: dac6
Additional Information 4: dac6c2650fa14dd558bd9f448e23afd1

Translation: Windows 8!

Sorry, that is not the technical information you want, but Windows 8 just cries out "avoid at all costs!" Also, if Cal says that the trainer has been updated then something is likely preventing your trainer from functioning. Have you attempted all of the troubleshooting methods?

 
Neo7  posted on Nov 12, 2012 10:33:29 AM - Report post

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quote:
originally posted by Rick_Terminal

Has anyone managed to get this trainer working on windows 8 (Steam/d2d version)? I pm'd Caliber but he said it had already been updated - last I can see it was updated was dec last year. Okay, so updated for the latest patch, but not the OS?

Understandable, as it is an old game - still if anyone has managed to get it to work on Windows 8 64 bit I'd appreciate a post or pm

I've tried the various compatibility modes on the shortcut (and "run as administrator" but it crashes straight away.

If anyone understands the stuff below... Good for you! Can you translate?

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: dao-Rick_Terminal.exe
Application Version: 0.0.0.0
Application Timestamp: 4ecfa878
Fault Module Name: URLMON.dll
Fault Module Version: 10.0.9200.16420
Fault Module Timestamp: 505a9194
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 00087960
OS Version: 6.2.9200.2.0.0.768.101
Locale ID: 2057
Additional Information 1: 5861
Additional Information 2: 5861822e1919d7c014bbb064c64908b2
Additional Information 3: dac6
Additional Information 4: dac6c2650fa14dd558bd9f448e23afd1

It is faulting with an exception code of 0xc5 which is a segmentation fault (or Access Violation in Microsoft's terms). In plain English it means that the trainer is being blocked from accessing the memory it needs to access to do its job. You will have to troubleshoot what program is blocking it.

 
Rick_Terminal  posted on Nov 20, 2012 3:32:21 PM - Report post

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mmmkay,

I have followed the trainer trouble shooter word for word but no success (I bet a lot of people don't bother reading all the way through, but I have be very methodical!) I only use 'windows defender' as an AV and disabling that (as well as UAC and smart screen, etc) fully did not work either - so I have no idea what could be blocking it. Re-registering urlmon.dll didn't help either.

Is it possible that there has been an slight oversight and it simply hasn't been updated? (bear in mind I was told in PM that it had been updated, hence why I'm posting!) After all, on the trainer page under compatibility it says:

(Patch 5, D2D/Steam)
"Compat: Windows XP, 2000, Vista, Windows 7"

whereas for *retail* (patch 5) it says:
"Compat: Windows XP, 2000, Vista, Windows 7, ***Windows 8***"

... and funnily enough the retail version doesn't crash. And that is a good point - if it is my setup causing the problem, then why does every other trainer that states "Windows 8" compatibility is work? The Dragon Age 2 (Steam) version works fine

I guess the original question still remains; has anyone got this working - that is the STEAM/D2D version for patch 5 in Windows 8pro 64?

 
PWizard  posted on Nov 20, 2012 3:35:58 PM - Report post

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We are unable to update the Steam trainer to Windows 8 compatibility, sorry.
 
Rick_Terminal  posted on Nov 20, 2012 4:00:34 PM - Report post

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Dang it. Well, thanks for letting me know so quickly. I have a funny feeling DAO is about to be installed on my wife's W7 machine

I use these trainers to test mods so it's a bummer when Microsoft fiddle around unnecessarily and cause all this hassle.

 
EkinoX  posted on Nov 25, 2012 8:33:14 AM - Report post

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Oh damn ! Happily I could do what I wanted with console commands.

Can you just explain why ? (just for info)

 
Rick_Terminal  posted on Nov 30, 2012 7:23:40 AM - Report post

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"Can you explain why ?"

I think the obvious answer may be that there may not be sufficient call for it, as DAO is over 4 years old (although still my most played title, thanks to the mod nexus!).

Look at it this way, how much work has had to be re-done by CH because of Windows 8? It's one thing to earn a living by writing trainers, but it's not much fun if you have to reprogram your entire back catalogue for little more than a few words of thanks (especially when there are other titles coming out all the time which you also have to cater for. It's easy to lose sight of the fact that there are thousands of games that have trainers that you might not own).

In short, CH has to make profit to exist - and also has to keep up with new releases at the same time (as well as administrating the site and the demands of a *lot* of people). I'm guessing the line has to be drawn somewhere, otherwise people would always expect to get everything on a silver platter no matter how much work is involved; and as a businessman myself, I can tell you that isn't fair or realistic.

On the other hand, there could be a technical reason I'm not aware of, and all of that could be complete bull! Regardless, I am constantly impressed by CH, and accept their answer completely. What is the saying? "You can't please all the people all the time"?

 
dynastyhan  posted on Dec 01, 2012 12:59:01 PM - Report post

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I'm just glad that this game is still functional with the trainer here!

And best of all, Caliber's original EVIL voice when F1 pressed is in the trainer I'm using!! yay

[Edited by dynastyhan, 12/1/2012 1:02:08 PM]

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