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Dhampy  posted on Jan 27, 2010 5:42:00 PM - Report post

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Well, in my defense, I did not claim that it wasn't a sport. I merely implied that paying adults millions of dollars to play a game at the same level as middle school kids is silly.

I don't mean to offend you, but you really have no idea what you're talking about at all. You're not a pro basketball player, not a basketball player at all from the sounds of it. The tone of your argument is extremely reminiscent of that of a video game fan boy - you have no experience or knowledge of the other platform and want to try prove that what you like is superior.

First of all, basketball is extremely physically tasking, running from one side of the court to the other quite often for immediate switches between offence and defence can be very tough - both mentally and physically. Something you seemed to think you know a lot about in basketball is teamwork. In basketball, teamwork is vital. Defending in the spot that you are supposed to be defending: a place your teammates trust you to be so that they can cover their space and be able to trust your teammates to cope with any sudden changes in play or break through defence. That's just one example of the importance of teamwork in basketball.

Also, on the point that you made about the improvement of skill: basketball is a much more tightly packed, fast action styled sport than most others i.e. hockey or american football, so what little difference you think you may see between pro and amateur basketball players could be well tuned skills accquired over years of practise.

So yeah, fair enough if you want to make fun of a sport that's not your own, I do it all the time with soccer, but you acting like a clueless fanboy isn't doing you any justice.

What you describe bears no resemblance to the American game as told by its insiders. Teamwork was an aspect of basketball waaaaay back when. "Teamwork" now is getting the ball to the scorer.

Look at how the panel were talking yesterday on Around the Horn. Getting Wade and LeBron on the same team. All but one were all for it, even though those two players would eat up almost all of your cap space. And what about the rest of the team under the salary cap? It didn't matter, because with two superstars all you need to worry about is feeding them. There is no "team". It's an individual sport.

And those basketball teams that focus on "team"? They're the ones tanking their seasons to get more balls in the draft lottery in hopes of getting the first overall draft picks so, hopefully, they can discard the "team" concept and win once and a while.

 
Latiosmaster47  posted on Jan 27, 2010 5:50:53 PM - Report post

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originally posted by Dhampy

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originally posted by Petray

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originally posted by Dhampy

Well, in my defense, I did not claim that it wasn't a sport. I merely implied that paying adults millions of dollars to play a game at the same level as middle school kids is silly.

I don't mean to offend you, but you really have no idea what you're talking about at all. You're not a pro basketball player, not a basketball player at all from the sounds of it. The tone of your argument is extremely reminiscent of that of a video game fan boy - you have no experience or knowledge of the other platform and want to try prove that what you like is superior.

First of all, basketball is extremely physically tasking, running from one side of the court to the other quite often for immediate switches between offence and defence can be very tough - both mentally and physically. Something you seemed to think you know a lot about in basketball is teamwork. In basketball, teamwork is vital. Defending in the spot that you are supposed to be defending: a place your teammates trust you to be so that they can cover their space and be able to trust your teammates to cope with any sudden changes in play or break through defence. That's just one example of the importance of teamwork in basketball.

Also, on the point that you made about the improvement of skill: basketball is a much more tightly packed, fast action styled sport than most others i.e. hockey or american football, so what little difference you think you may see between pro and amateur basketball players could be well tuned skills accquired over years of practise.

So yeah, fair enough if you want to make fun of a sport that's not your own, I do it all the time with soccer, but you acting like a clueless fanboy isn't doing you any justice.

What you describe bears no resemblance to the American game as told by its insiders. Teamwork was an aspect of basketball waaaaay back when. "Teamwork" now is getting the ball to the scorer.

Look at how the panel were talking yesterday on Around the Horn. Getting Wade and LeBron on the same team. All but one were all for it, even though those two players would eat up almost all of your cap space. And what about the rest of the team under the salary cap? It didn't matter, because with two superstars all you need to worry about is feeding them. There is no "team". It's an individual sport.

And those basketball teams that focus on "team"? They're the ones tanking their seasons to get more balls in the draft lottery in hopes of getting the first overall draft picks so, hopefully, they can discard the "team" concept and win once and a while.

Watch college basketball.

Basketball is a sport where if you master a single aspect of it, then you can make the pros. You just have to be brokenly good at it. Whether it's shooting, rebounding, driving or defending, it doesn't matter as long as you've got one aspect of the game mastered. College basketball is different. Most of the players there will never go pro, and each team has a distinct style of offense, unlike the NBA where the "get the ball to LeBron" tactic and dribble-drive penetration is a lot more prevalent.

And yeah, there probably are some playground ballers that can outplay some pros, but to say that it happens to the point of consistency is just ignorant.

 
forty-two  posted on Jan 27, 2010 5:53:34 PM - Report post

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Hey remember when Latios was all like "why can't we be friends?"

Well, we're dropping the basketball subject. It is not making any friends.

If you want to continue this pointless argument, take it to PM.

 
Paradox  posted on Jan 27, 2010 5:57:43 PM - Report post

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Hey remember when Latios was all like "why can't we be friends?"

Well, we're dropping the basketball subject. It is not making any friends.

If you want to continue this pointless argument, take it to PM.

I guess someone dropped the ball on this one.

 
pisces  posted on Jan 27, 2010 5:58:56 PM - Report post

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Can we just move on from this topic...

What was your last dinner?

Mine was fried noodle.

 
Neo7  posted on Jan 27, 2010 6:04:09 PM - Report post

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Hey remember when Latios was all like "why can't we be friends?"

Well, we're dropping the basketball subject. It is not making any friends.

If you want to continue this pointless argument, take it to PM.

I guess someone dropped the ball on this one.

*distant roar of everyone doing a facedesk*

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Dhampy  posted on Jan 27, 2010 6:13:15 PM - Report post

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Enough is enough. Next post about the subject gets a moderator warning.

[Edited by moderator Neo7, 1/27/2010 6:19:40 PM]

 
Petray  posted on Jan 28, 2010 6:20:34 AM - Report post

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Enough is enough. Next post about the subject gets a moderator.

[Edited by Jesus, 1/1/16 6:19:40 PM]

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