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Neo7  posted on Sep 21, 2009 8:25:01 PM - Report post

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2. Everyone will observe forum etiquette.

Use common sense! Treat other members (even new ones) the same way you want to be treated (If you happen to a masochist, you're on the wrong site). This does not mean that you cannot get verbally medieval on someone's ass, however, you better have a damn good reason to having to resort to harsh language towards another member. Swearing like you were drunk is not acceptable at anytime. Trolling will eventually get you banned. If you must flame (and the flame is warranted), be smart, witty, and creative about it. Generally, you will never go wrong by being nice, mature, and polite to other users (yes the new ones too).

And no..."he insulted game x" is not a good enough excuse.

 
Slick_R392  posted on Sep 22, 2009 12:48:03 AM - Report post

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2. Everyone will observe forum etiquette.

Use common sense! Treat other members (even new ones) the same way you want to be treated (If you happen to a masochist, you're on the wrong site). This does not mean that you cannot get verbally medieval on someone's ass, however, you better have a damn good reason to having to resort to harsh language towards another member. Swearing like you were drunk is not acceptable at anytime. Trolling will eventually get you banned. If you must flame (and the flame is warranted), be smart, witty, and creative about it. Generally, you will never go wrong by being nice, mature, and polite to other users (yes the new ones too).

And no..."he insulted game x" is not a good enough excuse.

Am sorry from my side.

But that was for.

 
PeTTs0n  posted on Sep 22, 2009 7:56:16 AM - Report post

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originally posted by L

2. Everyone will observe forum etiquette.

Use common sense! Treat other members (even new ones) the same way you want to be treated (If you happen to a masochist, you're on the wrong site). This does not mean that you cannot get verbally medieval on someone's ass, however, you better have a damn good reason to having to resort to harsh language towards another member. Swearing like you were drunk is not acceptable at anytime. Trolling will eventually get you banned. If you must flame (and the flame is warranted), be smart, witty, and creative about it. Generally, you will never go wrong by being nice, mature, and polite to other users (yes the new ones too).

And no..."he insulted game x" is not a good enough excuse.

Off topic, but hypothetically;

If you're married to gaming, can insulting game Y (i.e. person X's "wife", in a sense) count as a warranting excuse?
Insulting someone's wife sure is a bad, bad thing?

This was just a small thought to take the edge of the debate itself

[Edited by PeTTs0n, 9/22/2009 7:56:51 AM]

 
Chingy-X  posted on Sep 22, 2009 9:05:44 AM - Report post


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originally posted by L

2. Everyone will observe forum etiquette.

Use common sense! Treat other members (even new ones) the same way you want to be treated (If you happen to a masochist, you're on the wrong site). This does not mean that you cannot get verbally medieval on someone's ass, however, you better have a damn good reason to having to resort to harsh language towards another member. Swearing like you were drunk is not acceptable at anytime. Trolling will eventually get you banned. If you must flame (and the flame is warranted), be smart, witty, and creative about it. Generally, you will never go wrong by being nice, mature, and polite to other users (yes the new ones too).

And no..."he insulted game x" is not a good enough excuse.

Off topic, but hypothetically;

If you're married to gaming, can insulting game Y (i.e. person X's "wife", in a sense) count as a warranting excuse?
Insulting someone's wife sure is a bad, bad thing?

This was just a small thought to take the edge of the debate itself

[Edited by PeTTs0n, 9/22/2009 7:56:51 AM]

Didn't look like much of a debate until you and SecondLife engaged. HonestGamer and the others were just spewing nonsense.

I've just picked up the game today, and I haven't had the time to play it thoroughly, so I shall reserve my judgement of the game until a later time.

Although I will say this - the NFS series hasn't been the best in recent years, and unlike some I plan to take the removal of Black Box EA from the development to be a positive thing. Black Box has only made one epic racing game, and that's Burnout Paradise. They didn't do well with ProStreet, and Undercover came off as an unfinished product. I just hope the arrival of Slightly Mad Studios has made things better.

And yes, from what I've seen the ****pit view is a direct idea port from GRID, which was a direct idea port from Project Gotham Racing 4. The aggression/precision thing isn't a port from GRID, it's a new innovation. A lot of you really need to tone down the hot air and think before speaking.

 
MaD_MaT  posted on Sep 22, 2009 11:34:03 AM - Report post

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GRID>Shift

Why?
AI in shift is crazy - when you race there is always one or three of them on higher difficulty ( you have chosen easy and they are medium etc.) and whole rest are just like some random bumps on the road ( yes bumps b/c you can drive trough them - they fly away bouncing like a little rubber ball).
Steering is a hell - with xbox pad it's almost impossible to make a perfect lap and car is bouncing - only those heavier don't do that but that I think is somehow random ( BMW m3e46 weights almost 1.6 tons and bounce like hell when BMW m3e94(?) - this new one - is only 100 kilos heavier and stick to track like with glue).
Tuning - mechanical is good but optical is one big step backward. Why they even put it in here when all I use is those pre made sets. You can't even choose to make right and left side vinyl's same like in all other NFS games ( mirror option if I remember).
Tracks - same as in NFS: PS with some small addition. Don't make me laugh please... When you make such so called semi realistic game don't put tracks from tuner games - those in Japan and some in US are some kind of sick joke.

Well I know this is only cheathappens forum and this is not the place for those type of discussion. I'm sorry...

 
Slick_R392  posted on Sep 22, 2009 4:01:33 PM - Report post

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A debate got bit twitchy.
Am out.

[Edited by Slick_R392, 9/22/2009 4:04:02 PM]

 
CyberCore  posted on Sep 22, 2009 6:37:50 PM - Report post

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I like the handling in GRID more then in NFS Shift... but I already started - so after I was sleeping, I'll test some settings of the options wich the controls got, cause I'm going to be sick about those drifts in every curve... what's that?! Or the handling on high speed - I've decreased it down from 100% to 50% but, that helps only a little bit for me.

The demage model of Grid is better too - but okay, that doesn't matter for me that much. The control or handling feeling is more important for me. And this is very good in Grid - I hope or pray, that I can adjust the settings for my gamepad much better, so the game could make more fun. At this point, it's hard to take those curves or to hold the car on high speed in the right direction for the following curve. With the handling of Grid it would be a very-very gooood game!

The textures are a little bit better and it runs a bit more better than Grid at highest settings @ all - so that's very cool! But it sometimes looks like *candy*... don't know how to explain my meaning anyway sry.

That's all from my side at this time... writing later again, what comes out with my adjusting-plans ;-)!-bye

 
PeTTs0n  posted on Sep 22, 2009 6:42:42 PM - Report post

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2. Everyone will observe forum etiquette.

Use common sense! Treat other members (even new ones) the same way you want to be treated (If you happen to a masochist, you're on the wrong site). This does not mean that you cannot get verbally medieval on someone's ass, however, you better have a damn good reason to having to resort to harsh language towards another member. Swearing like you were drunk is not acceptable at anytime. Trolling will eventually get you banned. If you must flame (and the flame is warranted), be smart, witty, and creative about it. Generally, you will never go wrong by being nice, mature, and polite to other users (yes the new ones too).

And no..."he insulted game x" is not a good enough excuse.

Off topic, but hypothetically;

If you're married to gaming, can insulting game Y (i.e. person X's "wife", in a sense) count as a warranting excuse?
Insulting someone's wife sure is a bad, bad thing?

This was just a small thought to take the edge of the debate itself

[Edited by PeTTs0n, 9/22/2009 7:56:51 AM]

Didn't look like much of a debate until you and SecondLife engaged. HonestGamer and the others were just spewing nonsense.

I've just picked up the game today, and I haven't had the time to play it thoroughly, so I shall reserve my judgement of the game until a later time.

Although I will say this - the NFS series hasn't been the best in recent years, and unlike some I plan to take the removal of Black Box EA from the development to be a positive thing. Black Box has only made one epic racing game, and that's Burnout Paradise. They didn't do well with ProStreet, and Undercover came off as an unfinished product. I just hope the arrival of Slightly Mad Studios has made things better.

And yes, from what I've seen the ****pit view is a direct idea port from GRID, which was a direct idea port from Project Gotham Racing 4. The aggression/precision thing isn't a port from GRID, it's a new innovation. A lot of you really need to tone down the hot air and think before speaking.

How come? That I (I can/will not speak for others) came with solid arguments pro- and con a certain game?

That's a good example of debating, and that's a huge difference from bashing, which is often rude and disrespectful, both towards the user and the forums themselves.

I do not believe I insulted anyone, and if I did i cincerely apologize as it was not my intent. The riddle, however, was meant to show how serious any game vs. another game debate is, both of them are just a collection of bits (0s and 1s), no matter how you look at it.

I for one find the best NFS games to be NFS1/SE and NFS:Porsche, as they had some real driving feeling for the time, pretty well made games to be honest.

As said: hot air is useful in the right environment (such as a hot air balloon), but not in the wrong dito. (such as a fridge, or a freezer) - yet again an example to show how serious the interwebz are - as long as you're not getting personal or down right dirty it isn't really worth going postal on someone else over.

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