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Slick_R392  posted on Sep 18, 2009 1:47:41 AM - Report post

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I freaking agree GRID owns SHIFT.
Let me tell you why guys are here blaberring and saying
"yay SHIFT rules GRID sucks" Its only because SHIFT is a
"Need For Speed" Series and a "EA Games" production.
If it was for some "Valve", "iD" you guys out there who support SHIFT won't be the same

@BlGamer-
Dude..GRID has got 7 awards for its handling in Drift from different spots though B.Paradise bet it at GOTY-Racing awards.
If one is weak in GRID drift then occasionally people say what u just said "TERRIBLE" , "LAME" or "CRAP" .

[Edited by Slick_R392, 9/17/2009 1:08:41 PM]

[Edited by Slick_R392, 9/17/2009 1:09:13 PM]

Where are those awards ? As far as i can see even IGN rates Shift better. And not for the EA Logo, more for the handling (except drifting, that sucks ass). Besides all those possibilities in customizing. Now what can you customize in drift or tune ? It doesn't have to be the most real game ever to be fun or "feel" realistic. The tyre physics were made by the guy who was responsible for Richard Burns Rally. Compared to that drift sucks like a million asses.

But its okay, you're right, we have our peace and nfs sucks sooo bad.

I never said NFS sucks obviously it rocks.
But first its freaking clear to me that your a lame drifter
& about the awards try flashbacking GOTY of last year.
When it comes to customization i agree GRID sucks.
And worst thing about NFS in customization is they got the same vinyls over and over again.
The one in PRO STREET repeats in UNDERCOVER & SHIFT..
Some vinyls of NFS UNDERGROUND 2 are still there in SHIFT. lmao
Its a surprise that you see the originality through
Vinyls,Paint,Decals etc.
Let see if SHIFT can indeed make her way to GOTY.

Yes i may be a lame drifter, but I mean i can drift in grid, it just doesn't feel like anything car-ish. The cars there drive like karts with a trigger happy tail. Its just weird. With what car have you ever tried drifting in real life on a track to find THAT a great physics model ?

Try driving Richard Burns Rally, THAT is physics and real skill. Or try LFS. Don't try to catch me with GRID and great driving physics. It's just way too arcadish. Even more than the current NFS. Grid to me seems in many likes even more arcedey than Shift this time. And i did NOT like any of its predecessors. I think the last NFS i really thought was cool is High Stakes.

And about the customization, well i don't do vinyls. I'm more a hardware tuner. Don't need a fancy flashy car, it has to drive well, thats what matters. At least you have the choice here to do it while grid doesn't give you any options.

Ya great first of all everyone got their own choices and GRID is mine i heard everyone saying GRID is kinda ultra realistic and all those stuffs I think majority is at the wrong contray and you at the right one
By the way your so very self saying you hate adding vinyls so vinyls sucks you hate GRID so GRID is the same as every other racing games.
By the way you have to find someone who matches your likes, sorry but that would be better i believe

 
alfator  posted on Sep 18, 2009 12:41:46 PM - Report post

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yes NFS Shift is pure crap im sry but it is. firstly Drift in NFS:S is impossible to do . oh yeah you need steering wheel and stuff like that its OK to play races but not drift...

and yes in my opinion it doesnt worth a penny . it basicaly the same asd grid but abit more details to graphics..

( at start of the race and then when you going thrue every lap it laggy so for example you get 95 fps so when you passing the line it drops down to 20-13 especially if you crash into someone or cars in front of you make a mess..

so for all you nfs lovers nfs is ok game but id stick with GRID

 
nichky  posted on Sep 19, 2009 8:30:33 AM - Report post

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What's it with game bashing?

You either like this, or you don't.

If you made the choice to buy it and don't like it, live with it.

If you made the choice to NOT buy it because you don't like it, I fail to see why in the first place are you lurking in the NFS:S page and looking for people to argue with.

Just move on, won't you?

 
SecondLife  posted on Sep 19, 2009 9:38:45 AM - Report post

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yes NFS Shift is pure crap im sry but it is. firstly Drift in NFS:S is impossible to do . oh yeah you need steering wheel and stuff like that its OK to play races but not drift...

and yes in my opinion it doesnt worth a penny . it basicaly the same asd grid but abit more details to graphics..

( at start of the race and then when you going thrue every lap it laggy so for example you get 95 fps so when you passing the line it drops down to 20-13 especially if you crash into someone or cars in front of you make a mess..

so for all you nfs lovers nfs is ok game but id stick with GRID

Lol. Get yourself a decent PC and dont mope around here
I've never experienced any problems so far. NFSPS lags every 5-10 seconds without any reason. Shift doesn't.

Now thats nice from you too to support my theory of realism: if you can't play a game without steering wheel, then it just has to be realistic. If you can play it perfectly with keys, then its basically crap since this can't be realistic.

 
Slick_R392  posted on Sep 19, 2009 2:25:38 PM - Report post

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Kidding me right?
Pro Street lags so i bet u gotta get a decent PC befor suggesting one for others dude.
 
SecondLife  posted on Sep 20, 2009 4:04:44 PM - Report post

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Kidding me right?
Pro Street lags so i bet u gotta get a decent PC befor suggesting one for others dude.

Yes it does lag.

Q9550 @3.5Ghz, 8 Gig Ram and a 285GTX should be decent enough if they can run anything else just fine.

But you could try googling a little more about the NFS Lags before posting crap.

This is a well known problem in NFSPS. Probably not by everyone since a friend of mine with a way worse system can run it without problems, whilst none of my computers can.

Tried on a Laptop with 7900GS, C2D 2.0 and 3 Gig Ram too. Does indeed lag. Its not a constant frame loss its running 10 seconds very smooth then suddenly stops for like half a second and then runs again smooth für 10-20 seconds. It doesn't matter which track or how much the graphics are cranked up.

[Edited by SecondLife, 9/20/2009 4:07:48 PM]

 
PeTTs0n  posted on Sep 20, 2009 5:17:29 PM - Report post

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Grid looks just more soft and uses excessively effects. Which sucks. I like the details on the track in NFS. Cars look good in both of em.

Besides, i doubt its the skills, since i can drive reasonably well with LFS & NFS Shift (using the G25). Which both have a notably more realistic feel of a car than grid will ever have. Cars in grid just throw their backs out randomly, its more like a drunk guy with a fat butt is dancing. Not to mention the sound which makes my lawn mower sound like a huge V12 compared to that crappy noise coming out of my speakers.

The look and feel so far is great in NFS, the effects, the interior, the handling of the cars (which feels realistic, but has its arcadey leftovers to make it easier).

I guess the Grid Fanboys won't ever let anything get over their game even though reviews show clearly that its not GRID who wins this realism-round.

Realism? In Shift?

Now you gotta be kidding me - cars that (for some god awful reason) bounce randomly up and down, even when going straight? (I can understand bouncing on rough surfaces, when going sideways, as the resistance gets pretty extreme in such a situation - but going straight on a paved road?)
Basically only Test Drive Unlimited's physics engine is worse - and that's TDU's only major drawback.

Cars which are lighter than in GRID? You can basically drive UNDERNEATH one with little to no effort. Cars that should weigh around 1-2 metric tonnes!?

A corner mastering system that can be described very fitting using the word: unfinished. There's no conformity to it at all, it's sensitivity is so varying you could basically drive anywhere in some curves and still get mastery, whereas you'd have to hold a blazing speed at the exactly "correct" (which is sometimes pretty lousy) inch wide line.

AI which is so retarded that races and time attacks are ridiculously easy, while Car Battles get devilishly hard, even on easy difficulty?

Totally impossible to play on a keyboard (YES, GRID was possible to play with KB - completed it on one with no problems at all) - just forget Drifting and the others will be severly difficult.

Driving "aids" that rarely help but more oftenly totally screw up your current driving environment? It's not rare to see the car overcompensate in one direction (the direction you definitely don't want to go in - out in the sandpit for example) and when you try to steer back onto the track the car just works against you. All too often.


Bottom line: 3-4/10, tops.
GRID: 7-8/10.

GRID's running circles around Shift, and EA has yet shown the gaming world a total letdown of a game. Aiming at serious driving game enthusiast (while failing miserably to appease them), and at the same time scaring away the old arcade style fans is a recipe for failure. Good job, EA.

For the record no1: It's called a GTX285.

For the record no2: The above is criticism, which is useful. That's a whole lotta different from bashing.

For the record no3: Shift cars feel like plastic go-carts (no weight and crazy bouncing all the time), whereas GRID's feel like some real cars (sluggish, heavy and powerful - although yes, a little too much aids sometimes - but try turning them down and you'll get far closer to real driving than NFS ever has and probably ever will). (Go out on a track and compare driving a kart to driving a real car, and you'll see.)

For the record no4: Yes, GTR (+the sequels), LFS and Richard Burns Rally has more realism in most cases than both the aforementioned games, but GRID is still far superior to NFS:S.

[Edited by PeTTs0n, 9/20/2009 5:27:05 PM]

 
Slick_R392  posted on Sep 21, 2009 8:06:52 PM - Report post

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Kidding me right?
Pro Street lags so i bet u gotta get a decent PC befor suggesting one for others dude.

Yes it does lag.

Q9550 @3.5Ghz, 8 Gig Ram and a 285GTX should be decent enough if they can run anything else just fine.

But you could try googling a little more about the NFS Lags before posting crap.

This is a well known problem in NFSPS. Probably not by everyone since a friend of mine with a way worse system can run it without problems, whilst none of my computers can.

Tried on a Laptop with 7900GS, C2D 2.0 and 3 Gig Ram too. Does indeed lag. Its not a constant frame loss its running 10 seconds very smooth then suddenly stops for like half a second and then runs again smooth für 10-20 seconds. It doesn't matter which track or how much the graphics are cranked up.

[Edited by SecondLife, 9/20/2009 4:07:48 PM]

I have played it on PC as well as on Xbox 360 I din't see any damn lag.
Crap? Duh-uh..
And GRID is lame SHIFT is great?As i said first Shift got some rep
behind it and thats EA>NFS>SHIFT
And GRID doesn't but still i hear is GRID owns SHIFT on cheathappens,IGN,Gamespot etc.
Let me make it clear GRID's freaking tough and now I believe your a NOOB.

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