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Darkblade568  posted on May 22, 2009 10:45:36 PM - Report post

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I hope this isnt the case, because the developer has said that there will be no online activation required.

[Edited by Darkblade568, 5/22/2009 10:50:52 PM]

 
Psycho Gamer  posted on May 22, 2009 10:49:42 PM - Report post

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Thank you poster55 and bryanskrantz for telling us how going gold works but I know that the version I have is not the gold version cause there is so many errors in this build that make it feel as a work in progress rather then a copy gone gold.

I have seen pictures where you can be in a protest and see a security guard at the art gallery and they even have a sim that shows you around the art gallery.

Plus there are characters in the game that aren't in this build. in my build there is only a small handful of sims in the game.

Also the traits are very small under 15 Traits I counted in the game they have over 60 different Traits for your sims to use.

Either way the final version is way better then what I've seen
can't wait less then a week and a half to get Sims 3

 
Ashar  posted on May 23, 2009 1:05:36 AM - Report post

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Yep, lets just think of the leaked version as the beta version it is. Not complete, and a bit buggy, but something to pass the time with until retail comes out. I for one just encountered a nasty bug that corrupted my sim, she is now permanently invisible and stuck on the side of the street
 
DABhand  posted on May 23, 2009 2:04:04 AM - Report post

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quote:
originally posted by poster55

quote:
originally posted by DABhand

quote:
originally posted by Dodge34

A leaked version is always good to test if the game is working properly before buying something that won't work, we can't return opened games to the store so the only option is either download a demo (few games offer a demo theses days) or either download a leaked or illegal version of the game to test it on our computer first, cause the minimum and recommended settings never tell us the truth.

Not true.

Most leaked games are pre-gold's and the binaries are old compiled binaries so any bugs that happens will probably not appear in the retail.

And Sims 3 is not full retail the binary is from months ago and uses some of the Sims 2 engine its reported.

Also a high percentage of PC games do have a demo.

It surprises me the amount of people who lack the knowledge of what it means to 'go gold' and how the process works. I'll fill you in though since I'm not here to insult but to enlighten.

When a game goes 'Gold' that means they have shipped the final copy off to the manufacturer for print. There are no additional changes to the code after this point, and any changes made after that date are applied towards a patch for post-launch.

The old fashion way of 'shipping' a copy off for print no longer applies here though, most companies in the new age use digital distribution to 'ship' out copies to multiple manufacturer facilities. This is often how pirates 'intercept' copies pre-launch because the internet isn't exactly the most secure place.

From a company standpoint, its more efficient, less costly, easier to distribute to multiple facilities, and has lower risk than sending a hard copy for print.

The copy that was pirated is the real, final retail copy that went to print, however the reason it lacks so much content is EA was actually smart about this release. They expected the game to be pirated, and so the full content of the game wasn't shipped on disk. The other half of the game is sitting in the EA sims 3 online DLC store. Where you have to purchase and register a valid copy of the game to get all the 'free DLC content'.

This is their form of protection, much like what Stardock has done in the past with some of their games. Digital distribution, and allowing registered users to download 'new' content is a proven method for encouraging legit copies. Get used to it, cause it's the new form of anti-piracy, and likely the only one to actually have a chance at working better than on disk protection. Games will ship with less and less on disk content, and eventually they will be essentially shipping 'demos' of the game on disk and forcing people to download the rest of the game after registering.

Excuse me while I laugh my head off at you.

I know what happens when something goes gold. I did not say anything about after gold status, so why you brought that useless piece of info up I dont know.

I said it was Pre-Gold i.e. BEFORE gold status.

And no the Warez release (not Pirated so that shows your lack of knowledge) is not final retail at all. So lets not pull out fantasy information from the air to say it is, the binary is months old no way a developer would send a months old binary to final gold status. They would be laughed at by other developers.

And the rest of the info you said was nada-nada-yada.

Btw before you reply do some research on me, and click on the tutorials and guides link at the top. And then realise what you see means I do HAVE knowledge and I just made you look stupid.

[Edited by DABhand, 5/23/2009 2:11:17 AM]

 
Dodge34  posted on May 24, 2009 6:59:47 AM - Report post

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I know you expect a lot of The Sims 3, but what if the Gold version was actually what was leaked and full of bugs, I wouldn't be surprised at all, since Grand Theft Auto 4 was full of bugs when it came out and load of people expected a lot better than this, I wouldn't be surprised that we have a gold retail copy of The Sims 3 in our hands already and they choose to remove a lot of what was planned to get more money and sell them as add-ons package later.
 
Rabit561  posted on May 24, 2009 7:28:51 AM - Report post

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Thats how they always do it..

Either you can get over it and play it anyways, become a creator/modder, or find a better game..

Either way nobody cares, since we'll just pirate the next ones.

 
Hurracane  posted on May 24, 2009 9:43:12 AM - Report post

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quote:
originally posted by bryanskrantz

quote:
originally posted by poster55

quote:
originally posted by DABhand

quote:
originally posted by Dodge34

A leaked version is always good to test if the game is working properly before buying something that won't work, we can't return opened games to the store so the only option is either download a demo (few games offer a demo theses days) or either download a leaked or illegal version of the game to test it on our computer first, cause the minimum and recommended settings never tell us the truth.

Not true.

Most leaked games are pre-gold's and the binaries are old compiled binaries so any bugs that happens will probably not appear in the retail.

And Sims 3 is not full retail the binary is from months ago and uses some of the Sims 2 engine its reported.

Also a high percentage of PC games do have a demo.

It surprises me the amount of people who lack the knowledge of what it means to 'go gold' and how the process works. I'll fill you in though since I'm not here to insult but to enlighten.

When a game goes 'Gold' that means they have shipped the final copy off to the manufacturer for print. There are no additional changes to the code after this point, and any changes made after that date are applied towards a patch for post-launch.

The old fashion way of 'shipping' a copy off for print no longer applies here though, most companies in the new age use digital distribution to 'ship' out copies to multiple manufacturer facilities. This is often how pirates 'intercept' copies pre-launch because the internet isn't exactly the most secure place.

From a company standpoint, its more efficient, less costly, easier to distribute to multiple facilities, and has lower risk than sending a hard copy for print.

The copy that was pirated is the real, final retail copy that went to print, however the reason it lacks so much content is EA was actually smart about this release. They expected the game to be pirated, and so the full content of the game wasn't shipped on disk. The other half of the game is sitting in the EA sims 3 online DLC store. Where you have to purchase and register a valid copy of the game to get all the 'free DLC content'.

This is their form of protection, much like what Stardock has done in the past with some of their games. Digital distribution, and allowing registered users to download 'new' content is a proven method for encouraging legit copies. Get used to it, cause it's the new form of anti-piracy, and likely the only one to actually have a chance at working better than on disk protection. Games will ship with less and less on disk content, and eventually they will be essentially shipping 'demos' of the game on disk and forcing people to download the rest of the game after registering.

meh sooner or later someone from the scene will download all the DLC and put it on disk. if the DLC system is anything like Sims 2 than all you need is to download the Package files, zip or rar it and bingo. you have a pirated DLC that can be installed directly. BUT if EA was smart and had an online activation system for their DLC then that won't work. I hope its the latter.

Smart? LOL... I cant remember right now, but there has been DLC's in the past that needed online activation... and piraters have still gotten through it... the people who made these 'anti-piracy' programs and stuff like that, are still 'people', they arent god, so, 1 person or one group, can do the excact thing, but reverse it...

Basically to sum it up... a great little quote "Life will not be contained, life breaks free..."

 
DABhand  posted on May 24, 2009 2:51:50 PM - Report post

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originally posted by Dodge34

I know you expect a lot of The Sims 3, but what if the Gold version was actually what was leaked and full of bugs, I wouldn't be surprised at all, since Grand Theft Auto 4 was full of bugs when it came out and load of people expected a lot better than this, I wouldn't be surprised that we have a gold retail copy of The Sims 3 in our hands already and they choose to remove a lot of what was planned to get more money and sell them as add-ons package later.

It wasnt look at the date of the game executable. It has some Sims 2 engine left over (I know this when I had a look at the crack seperately and noticed the common sims 2 opcodes). Also the features that are not in the warez release will be in the full retail.

And im not going to pat peoples backs for stealing the game either.

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