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Strategies for battle
 
fatfruitcake  posted on Mar 14, 2009 5:19:39 AM - Report post

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I will be honest, i played for a while yesterday and i found out that i need some serious help in battles. To be honest, the bigger the battle, the worse i seem to do (but i usually kill more off than autoresolving does, if i can keep some of my dignity). But generally, i am horrible at battles. I played on hard battles with France, and i want to make a very hard battle campaign with England.

Does anyone know of a good book or a good website that has great details on 18th century warfare? That, or if some of you have some good strategies, it would be even better.

 
Dhampy  posted on Mar 14, 2009 8:26:31 AM - Report post

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The AI doesn't play by 18th century rules, so a book on tactics won't help much.

In general, you want to let the enemy come to you as much as possible.

Keep your troops in a mutually supportive line so they can mass their fire against enemies.

If you have cannons, position them on high ground behind your troops. They require line-of-sight and will fire through your troops if you don't get them above. Don't put them ahead of your men unless you want to lose them. This is why I research to get Howitzers as soon as possible--they do not require LOS and fire in a high arc above your troops.

Watch your flanks! The enemy will generally attack one side of your line or the other. Be ready to shift troops around.

Keep a reserve. A few companies of grenadiers work well. Use them to reinforce line units in danger.

Riflemen are your friend. Light infantry as well. They'll thin out the enemy and draw them in to where you want them.

When moving units, use the tool bar buttons rather than clicking on the play area. You don't want your troops to suddenly reshuffle their position and get jumbled up under fire.

I really should write a guide.

[Edited by Dhampy, 3/14/2009 8:27:26 AM]

 
Dhampy  posted on Mar 14, 2009 8:37:59 AM - Report post

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I forgot the most important thing: The turning movement.

Once the enemy is engaged before your line, they will usually have concentrated in a single place to try and break through. When this happens, reposition your unengaged troops across the enemy's line of advance--turn them like a door to flank the enemy.

This is Frederick the Great stuff, so the AI can't handle it.

 
fatfruitcake  posted on Mar 14, 2009 9:01:59 AM - Report post

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hmm, i have never been a fan of the howitzer: i like the ammo types that the other cannon have, particularly the shrapnel and shot-gun thing, although i see what u mean because of the arc of the howitzer, it is perfect to position behind my lines. I assume that they will fire over the infantry i have in front of them (given a little distance, of course)?

Also, what do you use the box formation for or the fire and advance tactic?

How about naval battles? i have a basic understanding, but i keep forgeting that the ships are stupid to fire at a ship even if a freindly ship is in the way.

[Edited by fatfruitcake, 3/14/2009 9:07:12 AM]

 
820423  posted on Mar 14, 2009 9:22:28 AM - Report post

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Box formation works great against enemy cavalry.
It may look stupid ingame, since you'd think the horses would just run right through it, but it worked wonders in real life as well.

I never really had a chance to use it myself to see if box is good at taking the real cavarly-punch, because as soon as my meatballs form up in box, the enemy cav goes and aborts the charge.
And the AI general goes a couple of times until he's all .

Making sure your flank defence involves units that can box against enemy cav-flanking is a good idea, if your own cav is inferior.

Fire and Advance is just what it sounds. First rank(line of men) fires then the seconds moves up and fires, then the third.. then the first again.. slowly progressing towards the enemy.
This is a click and target-ability, i THINK.
You'll have to click the button and then target a specific enemy. Much like grenades I think.

[Edited by 820423, 3/14/2009 9:26:11 AM]

[Edited by 820423, 3/14/2009 9:30:38 AM]

 
fatfruitcake  posted on Mar 14, 2009 9:43:23 AM - Report post

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what is the fire and advance tactic good for?
 
ChrisMJ  posted on Mar 14, 2009 9:55:37 AM - Report post

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It's good for getting all your men to fire at the enemy.
Most of the time the enemy line infantry will just move one rank into your firing arc, so only your first rank fires then reloads. quite ungly...

[Edited by ChrisMJ, 3/14/2009 9:56:18 AM]

Oh and it's not a target ability

[Edited by ChrisMJ, 3/14/2009 10:05:04 AM]

 
Dhampy  posted on Mar 14, 2009 10:07:20 AM - Report post

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quote:
originally posted by ChrisMJ

It's good for getting all your men to fire at the enemy.
Most of the time the enemy line infantry will just move one rank into your firing arc, so only your first rank fires then reloads. quite ungly...

[Edited by ChrisMJ, 3/14/2009 9:56:18 AM]

Oh and it's not a target ability

[Edited by ChrisMJ, 3/14/2009 10:05:04 AM]

When you research further, you gain the ability to fire three ranks deep.

Edit- and when you get platoon firing, your infantry is as invincible as invincible can be on the battlefield.

[Edited by Dhampy, 3/14/2009 10:08:15 AM]

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