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neok182  posted on Oct 30, 2008 9:55:58 AM - Report post

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You guys are overlooking the real reason they use activations. Its to kill 3rd party sales. Everytime gamestop/EB sells a second hand game, they dont get money. They add exclusive one time content in new games so that buying used gets you less value (think rock band 2 and its ONE time DLC code) Activations do the same thing, you buy a game, it has no installs left so you call, they ask if you are the original owner, you say no, and they say buying second hand violates the EULA. You say yes (when you are not) and they ask why your ISP is diff, why you are in a different location, and why your computer is totally different. Its just crappy that people who love collecting games (and not selling em second hand) have to pay the price for people who buy and sell games like its not affecting anyone else.

your a little wrong here.

Gamestop, EB, FYE, and every other single retailer (in the us at least) does not accept PC trade ins. started about 4 years ago and to my understanding there is no retail store in the US that you can trade in a PC game. so the reselling argument is gone

You could however sell them on your own via ebay/craigs list. but now because of the new DRM your screwed doing that.

Hence why more and more people pirate DRMed games because your stuck with that game forever regardless of whether ot not you like it because now most places won't even accept PC returns once it's open.

 
NemesisMk1  posted on Oct 30, 2008 2:56:15 PM - Report post


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Keygens don't work with that kind of game.
Because every single key is saved on server and it checks if that key was realy sold.
Otherwise it could be easy to get that games to play online or games above steam

Anyway it is ilegal
No CD/DVD is ok (aslong as you have original game) but if you bypass key activation it's ilegal.

I am waiting till i know how strong drm limitations are on that game , if they are ok like Sacred 2 i will get it

actually the keygens work fine because you don't let the game access the internet.

Thats how they did it with spore. put in the key, but disable the game from going online and you still have the full game.

And with Red Alert it's the same way. you lose the online part but you still get the entire single player game.

Ayup, DRM only encourages piracy, Spore is hands down, the most DL'd game in Torrents as of today, thanks largely to people boycotting DRM, so in essence, they didn't even really want the game, they DL'd it to spite EA + SecurRom.

 
Caswallawn  posted on Oct 30, 2008 3:33:22 PM - Report post

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It's sad that EA is the only major publisher that limits the number of installs for their PC games now. It started with Mass Effect and went on with Mercenaries 2, Crysis Warhead, and now C&C Red Alert 3.

you forgot to metion Spore

and the origonal one to do it bioshock (none EA)

 
phobos_9  posted on Oct 30, 2008 6:03:43 PM - Report post

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if only it were as easy as going to online tech support for more activations but you can't. if you try they will only tell you that they cannot do it, you have to call the tech support hotline. and surprise, surprise, it's a pay-per-minute number to. and to top it off, they will put you on hold for as long as they can before they treat you like trash, like they did with this unlucky guy Link.

what i have been doing, is installing and registering the game, then uninstalling securom (there are guide out there about how to do it, but i like this oneLink. simple to understand and even has pictures for slow people like me )

 
neok182  posted on Oct 30, 2008 7:16:12 PM - Report post

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actually after the whole uproar over bioshocks DRM and install limits they removed them all in the first patch with the plasmid DLC hopefully EA follows suit eventually (doubtful)
 
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I like Blizzard's method of controlling piracy. None really care about the single player games and the computers only entertain so much.

No...the real action is online play. And you can only play in the real action with a genuine CD Key. No key, no battle.net. But hey if you install the game without one, more power to you and enjoy the single player experience.

 
neok182  posted on Oct 30, 2008 8:35:50 PM - Report post

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I like Blizzard's method of controlling piracy. None really care about the single player games and the computers only entertain so much.

No...the real action is online play. And you can only play in the real action with a genuine CD Key. No key, no battle.net. But hey if you install the game without one, more power to you and enjoy the single player experience.

yup. now if only they could make games in under 5 years. me and my friends have a bet that Duke Nukem Forever will be out before both starcraft and diablo 3.

 
phobos_9  posted on Oct 31, 2008 1:48:00 PM - Report post

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blizzard may be slow to release games, but when they do release one you can be certain that it will be a top-notch game

heck starcraft 1 and diablo 2 are still being played so many years after they were released.

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