agreed really well done game and unlike the multiple hours of server downtime every week for Wow, and things matter when you die! you loose more than just gold! and exp!, you could loose skills to fly the same ship u got blown up in along with the ability to fire the weapons too! haha they only have about a max of 45 mins a night gotta love that, the learning vurve is a little steep cause its waaaay different that your other mmo's but once you get the hang of it very fun expeciallywhen you start making tons of loot and not have to wrry about wondering 0.0 security space by yourself if you have a bad ass ship ... and insurance just in case your ambushed. I have heard of exploits and cheats(not the buying ISK places) but actual bugs not yet fixed in game like isk duping and item duping somehow quick increase of security status to your character anyone know if these are just scams or are there some truth to this cause if everyone else is using them online without telling the old people who used to play but stopped for a while like me then I might need to know these things so I can spot em maybe?anyone want to go pirate hunting or maybe mineral agthering im no newb and have some alright ships right now. hit me up Character: Blackout6969 <-Caldari peace! -Black