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Posted: Dec 27, 2006 1:43:58 PM - Report post  (0)  (0)       This topic is locked   post reply 

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So what do you look foward to after death?

Nothing?

So if nothing, why do good? Why not just do whatever you want to do? Make yourself happy and forget about the feelings of others.

Again this ties into feelings and the inner instinct to do good.

No ammount of molecules or atoms or whatever can create something as remarkable as feelings or instinct other than a higher power, so again, there is my proof of God.

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After death... rebirth.

Sure no amount of molecules can surmount to feeling... but evolution can, the will to suvive, CAN.

There u have your answer. (There is no greater bieng)

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that is not proof...that is just how you organized evidence...but it is not beyond a reasonable doubt

and ok..hypothetically lets say that your right...and there is a supream being/beings. how do you know that you are worshiping the right one?

and if there is a god. why make man? what is the point? it says that man was created pure and without sin in gods image, but then it was corrupted by the will of the serpent. the bible also says that God knows everything,even that pertaining to the future...so why would he create man if he knew that they would fall into sin and live in generations of struggle trying to resists sin?

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Omerta-

So you believe in reincarnation...

I'm pretty sure that creation through evolution was just a matter of matter which eventually exploded outward and over billions of years created what we have today, right?

So if that is correct, than creation through evolution was unable to create feelings and instinct.

And about the 'will to survive,' that is instinct and instinct cannot create feelings.

Your answer made no sense nor did it answer any of my questions or even come close to proving that God is not real. You just tied one thing into another.

You know what, scratch that...

...How?

How can evolution, or the 'will to survive' for that matter, create feelings?

[Edited by darkish_raven, 12/27/2006 1:56:39 PM]

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that is not proof...that is just how you organized evidence...but it is not beyond a reasonable doubt

and ok..hypothetically lets say that your right...and there is a supream being/beings. how do you know that you are worshiping the right one?

and if there is a god. why make man? what is the point? it says that man was created pure and without sin in gods image, but then it was corrupted by the will of the serpent. the bible also says that God knows everything,even that pertaining to the future...so why would he create man if he knew that they would fall into sin and live in generations of struggle trying to resists sin?

What a BEUTIFUL point at the and there my man!!!

Three cheers for u!

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Omerta-

So you believe in reincarnation...

I'm pretty sure that creation through evolution was just a matter of matter which eventually exploded outward and over billions of years created what we have today, right?

So if that is correct, than creation through evolution was unable to create feelings and instinct.

And about the 'will to survive,' that is instinct and instinct cannot create feelings.

Your answer made no sense nor did it answer any of my questions or even come close to proving that God is not real. You just tied one thing into another.

You know what, scratch that...

...How?

How can evolution, or the 'will to survive' for that matter, create feelings?

[Edited by darkish_raven, 12/27/2006 1:56:39 PM]

Instinct is a virteu... TRUST AT OWN RISK!!!
There is also greed and the need to have more... Humans developed that on their own my man!

[Edited by OmertaRacer, 12/27/2006 1:59:02 PM]

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Who knows maybe there is a god that out us all here and just let us sin or not but it keeps me up all night.
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