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    Neo7 posted on Jun 15, 2015 7:17:53 PM - Report post
     
    I no longer disable it on mine. The only OS change I do out of the box is setting the DEP policy to OptOut.
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    B4Marc posted on Jun 15, 2015 7:36:36 PM - Report post
     
    I did delete the pagefile.sys in Win XP, but learned a better way to stay safe, no errors and speedy by installing the pagefile, temporary Internet Files and the Recycle Bin to a small 4 GB RAMDISK
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    Jaks posted on Jun 15, 2015 8:27:07 PM - Report post
     
    quote:
    originally posted by Neo7

    I no longer disable it on mine. The only OS change I do out of the box is setting the DEP policy to OptOut.


    That reminds me. I bought Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars on sale yesterday and it has this notation on the store page:

    Notice: WINDOWS 7 USERS: To ensure proper functionality, you must disable User Account Control (UAC) via the Windows Control Panel before launching the game.

    Why is it necessary to disable UAC?








    [Edited by element5, 6/15/2015 8:28:18 PM]

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    KingEli posted on Jun 15, 2015 9:22:57 PM - Report post
     
    I liked how this guy sums it up and he's pretty much saying what I did:"Memory management algorithms are very complex and by any means not perfect. So swapping occurs even when there is plenty of spare RAM. On some systems, like Linux, you can control swappiness, on others you can't. By swapping out data when there is still plenty of RAM, system in its own way prepares for the situation when it might run out of RAM.

    So disabling swapping functionality might give you the improvement in performance because you will only be using RAM which is faster as you already said.

    One thing to consider (and you mentioned it already) - you need to have enough RAM to accommodate all the programs you are executing, otherwise you are risking to run out of memory. In this case the performance will drop, some processes may be terminated by OS and system may experience crash/freeze. (read more about it here)

    On some machines, especially ones that keep swap file on HDD not SSD, the effect from disabling swapping is very noticeable. On others it is not so obvious. But even if you don't get obvious improvement, think of it in another way, by disabling swapping you will save yourself some disk space on your SSD.

    By disabling swapping, you will also prevent memory algorithms from doing unnecessary operation - moving data from RAM to swap and vice versa - in case of SSD this will prevent excessive wear. And in any case this will improve the performance by eliminating unnecessary operations."


    As you can see it's not so cut and dry, windows uses page file not only when it's absolutely necessary and yeah you will lose performance when it does especially if it's on hdd drive, you wont lose so much performance on ssd drive but you will lose the drive itself faster.
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    Neo7 posted on Jun 15, 2015 9:51:31 PM - Report post
     
    quote:
    originally posted by element5

    quote:
    originally posted by Neo7

    I no longer disable it on mine. The only OS change I do out of the box is setting the DEP policy to OptOut.


    That reminds me. I bought Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars on sale yesterday and it has this notation on the store page:

    Notice: WINDOWS 7 USERS: To ensure proper functionality, you must disable User Account Control (UAC) via the Windows Control Panel before launching the game.

    Why is it necessary to disable UAC?








    [Edited by element5, 6/15/2015 8:28:18 PM]

    Without UAC, all programs run as administrator (bad security practice). I would say that if it runs fine when you run it as administrator without disabling UAC, you should be fine (and you can configure the program to automatically do it through the compatibility tab).

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    Jaks posted on Jun 15, 2015 10:02:23 PM - Report post
     

    Ah, ok. Some people say leave UAC off anyway but, honestly, I leave it on and I've never seen any reason not to. An occasional confirming click is not my idea of a nuisance so I'd just as soon have the additional security as not. Thanks.

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    linesma posted on Jun 16, 2015 12:01:32 AM - Report post
     
    Neo7 - Thank you for laying it all out like you did. It is interesting to see how technology has changed since Windows XP and before. Heck, I remember the days of making my own custom boot disks to play my DOS games. I am so glad those days are gone!

    I think I will go the safer route and leave the pagefile on. Even though I am not hurting for RAM (32gb in current rig), I would just feel more comfortable leaving it be.

    Thank you everyone for your input. This is why I enjoy posting to CH. You get answers without any of the "I am not having that issue" or "Just buy a Mac and...." Spam posts.
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    DABhand posted on Jun 16, 2015 1:23:10 PM - Report post
     
    Doesn't matter

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