How about...no? There are many different and compelling reasons to overclock, only one of which is increased FPS. I would agree that back in the 440BX days (which you probably weren't around for) that you did run the risk of hardware damage if you set up your voltages incorrectly. However, today, yeah...not so much especially given that most manufacturers of high end boards expect that the consumer will overclock. Not only do they expect it, they now provide you with tools to do it automatically and safely.
I also disagree with the notion that it isn't great "in the long run". While the plural of anecdote is not data, this is my experience with the boards I have overclocked:
ABIT BH6 "Legion" board with a Celeron 300A OC'ed to 450Mhz circa 1998 that is still running! I saw that machine mid-last year and the older gentleman I had donated it to was still using it to host his website for his RC plane hobby. That's 17 years of service and still kicking. It's still on its original motherboard, proc, memory, power supply, chassis and 2X Creative optical drive.
Intel 850GB "Garibaldi" with a Pentium 4 OC'ed to 3Ghz(!) that I ran in a tank of mineral oil. It lasted for a little more than 5 years before I got tired of swapping out the oil and threw it away.
Intel 975XBX2 "Bad Axe" board with a Q6600 OC'ed to a conservative 3.5Ghz running a closed loop, AIO Corsair watercooling solution circa 2005. Ten years of service and still kicking, it's still in its original state with no replacement parts and serves as a 12TB NAS unit with NAS4Free.
Intel X58SO "Smackover" board with an I7-990X OC'ed to 5Ghz with a closed loop watercooling solution circa 2008. Also still kicking and serves as a 24TB NAS unit with NAS4Free.
Intel DZ68BC "The Problem Child" board with a Core I5 2500K OC'ed to 3.2Ghz on air cooling circa 2011. It currently spends its days as a CentOS 6.6 server running nginx, Transmssion, DNS, mail, OpenVPN and as a relay node. Funnily enough, I did have a problem with this machine that made it unstable as Hell but it turned out not to be an OC problem but, rather, a problem between Intel boards of the era and Corsair power supplies. Swapped out the PSU for an Antec and it has been rock solid ever since.
Intel BOXDZ77GAL-70K "The Heretic" board running a Core I7-3770K OC'ed to 4.5Ghz on air cooling circa 2012. This is a machine I have mounted in my rack at home and serves as my gaming machine currently. It's never been unstable for a moment and I expect it to last me well in to 2017 when it will be time for an upgrade. At that point, I expect to use it as another NAS unit and see it last for another 7-10 years.
Shuttle SZ87R6 "This is a 'work' box?!?!?!" running a Core I7 4770K with a mild 10% OC. It's my daily driver at my desk that I use to play games with, compile on and work on VMs. It's only a year old.
I've done many more systems than just these but these are the ones that I truly remember for one reason or another. They go as far back as 17 years, span 6 different eras of computing and are all still alive and well.
Like I said it is only for enthusiasts.
And I think a tank full of mineral oil with a mobo in it classifies you as one
But for the ordinary user, overclocking isn't a good idea. And I will stick with it.
How about...no? There are many different and compelling reasons to overclock, only one of which is increased FPS. I would agree that back in the 440BX days (which you probably weren't around for) that you did run the risk of hardware damage if you set up your voltages incorrectly. However, today, yeah...not so much especially given that most manufacturers of high end boards expect that the consumer will overclock. Not only do they expect it, they now provide you with tools to do it automatically and safely.
I also disagree with the notion that it isn't great "in the long run". While the plural of anecdote is not data, this is my experience with the boards I have overclocked:
ABIT BH6 "Legion" board with a Celeron 300A OC'ed to 450Mhz circa 1998 that is still running! I saw that machine mid-last year and the older gentleman I had donated it to was still using it to host his website for his RC plane hobby. That's 17 years of service and still kicking. It's still on its original motherboard, proc, memory, power supply, chassis and 2X Creative optical drive.
Intel 850GB "Garibaldi" with a Pentium 4 OC'ed to 3Ghz(!) that I ran in a tank of mineral oil. It lasted for a little more than 5 years before I got tired of swapping out the oil and threw it away.
Intel 975XBX2 "Bad Axe" board with a Q6600 OC'ed to a conservative 3.5Ghz running a closed loop, AIO Corsair watercooling solution circa 2005. Ten years of service and still kicking, it's still in its original state with no replacement parts and serves as a 12TB NAS unit with NAS4Free.
Intel X58SO "Smackover" board with an I7-990X OC'ed to 5Ghz with a closed loop watercooling solution circa 2008. Also still kicking and serves as a 24TB NAS unit with NAS4Free.
Intel DZ68BC "The Problem Child" board with a Core I5 2500K OC'ed to 3.2Ghz on air cooling circa 2011. It currently spends its days as a CentOS 6.6 server running nginx, Transmssion, DNS, mail, OpenVPN and as a relay node. Funnily enough, I did have a problem with this machine that made it unstable as Hell but it turned out not to be an OC problem but, rather, a problem between Intel boards of the era and Corsair power supplies. Swapped out the PSU for an Antec and it has been rock solid ever since.
Intel BOXDZ77GAL-70K "The Heretic" board running a Core I7-3770K OC'ed to 4.5Ghz on air cooling circa 2012. This is a machine I have mounted in my rack at home and serves as my gaming machine currently. It's never been unstable for a moment and I expect it to last me well in to 2017 when it will be time for an upgrade. At that point, I expect to use it as another NAS unit and see it last for another 7-10 years.
Shuttle SZ87R6 "This is a 'work' box?!?!?!" running a Core I7 4770K with a mild 10% OC. It's my daily driver at my desk that I use to play games with, compile on and work on VMs. It's only a year old.
I've done many more systems than just these but these are the ones that I truly remember for one reason or another. They go as far back as 17 years, span 6 different eras of computing and are all still alive and well.
Like I said it is only for enthusiasts.
And I think a tank full of mineral oil with a mobo in it classifies you as one
But for the ordinary user, overclocking isn't a good idea. And I will stick with it.
"And I think a tank full of mineral oil with a mobo in it classifies you as one"
I disagree, it was more along the lines of "Well, just how far can I take this?" I do that in pretty much every facet of my life so I'd have to be an "enthusiast" of a lot of different things. For example, am I a "dishwasher enthusiast" because I swapped out the drain hose and installed a higher volume drain pump on my dishwasher to drain it faster? Am I an "air conditioner enthusiast" because I swapped out the coils in my AC unit for coils that were more efficient and colder? Or would that make me an "efficiency enthusiast"?
"But for the ordinary user, overclocking isn't a good idea. And I will stick with it."
Again, what data do you have to support this? As I said previously, if you're buying a high end board...the tools are there, provided by the manufacturer. You can literally teach an 84 year old grandmother how to do it and the tools provided by the manufacturer are built around the idea that it must be easy for the most technically illiterate person to accomplish. "Press button, make go fast" mentality level. Further, a company isn't going to offer a product with manufacturer supported performance gains if that process hasn't been tested out the wazoo.
If I went through and charted the amount of system failures I've experienced caused by increasing performance beyond stock versus the amount of systems that did not fail, I know right off the top of my head that the data points would skew heavily toward the "did not fail" category.
You're making an absolute statement and I would like to see that data you have that supports that absolute statement.
Unless I'm reading it wrong, where it says:
GRAFIKKORT: ASUS 4GB GTX970 STRIX (OVERCLOCKED DCII)
No?
I'd say between 850 to 1000 for a Power supply. Falcon put 1000 in my system.
[Edited by element5, 1/23/2015 12:39:33 PM]
far as i can understand, DCII is the Fan, so wouldn't that just be the cooling that got alittle extra?
the above might be a completly ridiculess guess, but im so far behind on pc's nowadays, that i might as well be 100, dead and buried
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