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element5  posted on Sep 01, 2014 12:27:57 AM - Report post

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(from Post by Dabhand in Planetary)

Thanks Dab, I hadn't looked there in quite awhile. And my bad for not paying attn to your siggy.

Prices look great and I like the 24/7 customer service (30 minute response) and they refund a purchase if the CD Key doesn't work.

What's the difference between games that are Play on Steam vs. Steam Gift? Don't they email a new CD key to you for both to dload on Steam? Gift prices ranged from somewhat cheaper to quite a bit more. Why is that?

Thanks.


[Edited by element5, 9/1/2014 1:21:42 AM]

 
Gameplayer69  posted on Sep 01, 2014 3:27:02 AM - Report post

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Hi, my only caution would be with Steam gifts, there is usually a disclaimer and most companies will state that it is a risk with Steam Gifts and possible account bans. Whether that's true or not, because most of us usually have hundreds of games with Steam, it may not be worth the risk with jeopardising our Steam account for a few bargains. However they are credible resellers of official game keys including their affiliates at great prices (from personal experience and what I've read on the net).
And never use a VPN with buying games from Steam.

[Edited by Gameplayer69, 9/1/2014 3:28:19 AM]
Here is the link from their game page as well which specifies the risk with Steam gifts. www.g2play.net/category/8149/habitat-steam-gift/

[Edited by Gameplayer69, 9/1/2014 3:30:39 AM]

 
DABhand  posted on Sep 01, 2014 6:34:53 AM - Report post

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For steam gift from there, what happens is you get a link which enables the steam gift to be given to you, all you do is accept.

It will add the other account as a friend which you can remove if you wish, I just leave there they aren't going to talk to you :P

The gifts is cheaper no doubt because there is a loophole that they can buy cheap as a gift from a specific location on the planet and when gifting the game is changed to a localized version.

It is not illegal, and is not bannable, until Valve decide to do the dirty and fix that loophole. I have used the steam gift option a number of times and my games are fine, and thats been since 2 years ago.

But their keys are legit if you buy a full key, they just buy from again a location (Not Russia - although they do sell Russian keys also) and sell at a reduced price than normal.

They did get caught up by having most of their legit keys for Sniper Elite stopped, but they got in contact with Valve to tell them "wtf are you doing we are legit and not key thieves" and the keys were reinstated. But that was valve being ****s and not checking and stroking their ego.

 
element5  posted on Sep 01, 2014 9:19:12 AM - Report post

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Thanks to you both for the insights. I've added them as a resource for my games.

 
0x90  posted on Sep 01, 2014 9:44:41 AM - Report post

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Steam keys are retail keys taken from retail merchants that can be applied to steam, mostly scanned. Those keys can be region locked or blocked or even contain a censorshipped game

Steam gifts are directly purchased and gifted to you. They cannot be blocked or locked. You'll not get a censorshipped game if you live in for example Germany and the gifted game is bought in the US.

There is no problem with steam gifts except of being shipped a bit slower because there is no automatic system (I'm aware of).

 
CombatWars  posted on Sep 01, 2014 10:35:50 AM - Report post

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quote:
originally posted by 0x90

Steam keys are retail keys taken from retail merchants that can be applied to steam, mostly scanned. Those keys can be region locked or blocked or even contain a censorshipped game

Steam gifts are directly purchased and gifted to you. They cannot be blocked or locked. You'll not get a censorshipped game if you live in for example Germany and the gifted game is bought in the US.

There is no problem with steam gifts except of being shipped a bit slower because there is no automatic system (I'm aware of).

Actually, there's a few games that get blocked or locked. One example was Borderlands 2 which Russian traders sold at a cheap price: When it was released, it was locked to Russian servers only(as in you couldn't play with people in the rest of the world for co-op). They gave the players with the RU copy a ROW copy after a while though so it's fine now. Another was Banished, wherein people purchased Russian copies of the game and it was retroactively blocked from being run even when people had already activated the game and played it.

@OP: For Steam Gift trading, you're in the clear for the most part. Most traders take precaution to only trade ROW versions of the game but some problems do happen where games/gifts in the inventory are retroactively marked with a region and have region locks added onto them.

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It's recommended to activate the game you receive as soon as possible since games are known to retroactively be region locked with activation locks. Those that activate the game before a region lock are more than likely to be fine for the most part; it's just if you don't activate it and it later gets region locked, you could be blocked from even activating the game on your account. Recent example: Valiant Heart

Edit: I want to point out that Banished was reverted back after people complained about it being retroactively locked. But this set the precedent that Valve can lock gifts even after you've played it months or years in the future.

One thing that is yet to happen is with The Witcher 3 RU copies. Currently, there's no activation lock but it is tagged RU. The devs say they won't put a OnlyRunIn lock on it unless the regional trading goes overboard. :/


Also, there technically is an automatic trading system but it's only for within Steam trading such as with TF2/CSGO/Dota2(?) keys for games. A few sites like dispenser.tf use some sort of bot that utilizes the function to automatically do trades for you at preset prices without you needing to be online :/

[Edited by CombatWars, 9/1/2014 10:47:30 AM]

 
DABhand  posted on Sep 01, 2014 12:14:55 PM - Report post

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quote:
originally posted by 0x90

Steam keys are retail keys taken from retail merchants that can be applied to steam, mostly scanned. Those keys can be region locked or blocked or even contain a censorshipped game

Steam gifts are directly purchased and gifted to you. They cannot be blocked or locked. You'll not get a censorshipped game if you live in for example Germany and the gifted game is bought in the US.

There is no problem with steam gifts except of being shipped a bit slower because there is no automatic system (I'm aware of).

You can make links to the gift when you make one, so when someone uses that specific link they get the gift.

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