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PWizard  posted on Mar 28, 2014 11:35:21 AM - Report post

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Yes, unfortunately people like Bacon Overlord think that because they purchased a $69 membership years ago that our entire site and services should revolve around them and whatever POS title they happen to be playing at the moment. Yet it doesn't exactly work like that. You see, I have purchased multiple $600 iPhones and my ONLY request to Apple was that they release a feature that can distinguish my ASS from my FINGERS so that I (and millions of other people) don't butt-dial 23 people every day. I mean, Samsung has the completely useless feature of tracking my eye movement so the screen can scroll when I don't want it to, so surely the geniuses at Apple can separate my ass from my hand. As you can see, I am still waiting on this feature to be implemented. Just because I paid for something doesn't mean I get to dictate the product's roadmap.
 
EmpireX  posted on Mar 28, 2014 12:23:43 PM - Report post

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techowl  posted on Mar 28, 2014 12:29:12 PM - Report post

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quote:
originally posted by PWizard

Yes, unfortunately people like Bacon Overlord think that because they purchased a $69 membership years ago that our entire site and services should revolve around them and whatever POS title they happen to be playing at the moment. Yet it doesn't exactly work like that. You see, I have purchased multiple $600 iPhones and my ONLY request to Apple was that they release a feature that can distinguish my ASS from my FINGERS so that I (and millions of other people) don't butt-dial 23 people every day. I mean, Samsung has the completely useless feature of tracking my eye movement so the screen can scroll when I don't want it to, so surely the geniuses at Apple can separate my ass from my hand. As you can see, I am still waiting on this feature to be implemented. Just because I paid for something doesn't mean I get to dictate the product's roadmap.

I'm sorry but I must laugh, And also another comment (don't hate me) but your ass must be very.. Spikey

 

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fullmetal5550  posted on Mar 28, 2014 5:10:01 PM - Report post

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originally posted by Bacon Overlord

3500 points...

For three very basic hex edited memory addresses and a speed change?

Suggestion:
In order to keep from ****ing people off about the amount of points they invest in something like this game, you might want to advertise what exactly you're going to include in the trainer.

That way there is no surprise when you get something like this.... for $300 worth of points I expected a slot editor, no reload, float/fly mode, teleport, etc.

Kind of keeps you from losing credibility on what you're going to provide in the future too.

[Edited by Bacon Overlord, 3/28/2014 9:15:30 AM]

It's their site. They can add whatever options they want to the trainer. Being disrespectful isn't going to make them want to help you.

 
SydBarrett  posted on Mar 28, 2014 5:17:03 PM - Report post

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Many thanks for the trainer, it's going to save me a massive amount of time dealing with cheat engine for every weapon plus health and money every time I start the game. Oh, and I wish I'd had the super speed for the first time I finished the game, it's easily the most helpful option (and one I'd never get using cheat engine).
 
Bacon Overlord_old  posted on Mar 28, 2014 5:40:00 PM - Report post


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originally posted by PWizard

Yes, unfortunately people like Bacon Overlord think that because they purchased a $69 membership years ago that our entire site and services should revolve around them and whatever POS title they happen to be playing at the moment. Yet it doesn't exactly work like that. You see, I have purchased multiple $600 iPhones and my ONLY request to Apple was that they release a feature that can distinguish my ASS from my FINGERS so that I (and millions of other people) don't butt-dial 23 people every day. I mean, Samsung has the completely useless feature of tracking my eye movement so the screen can scroll when I don't want it to, so surely the geniuses at Apple can separate my ass from my hand. As you can see, I am still waiting on this feature to be implemented. Just because I paid for something doesn't mean I get to dictate the product's roadmap.

Oh.. well please allow me to retort then.

Do I think the entire site revolves around me? That's pretty silly, don't you think? If that was the case I would have all of the titles that claim to have an "active" game trainer actually HAVE an active and working trainer for it for starters.

Then I'd probably go out to the various people that have been here for a long time and ask them what they would expect from a $300 worth of points (nobody said I spent $300.. I said "WORTH" of points in order to show the correlation of time vs. effort in this case) which, in this and every other even thinkable case would have absolutely NOTHING to do with how many people are going to download it when you force a vote/point/microtransaction on us regardless of which game it is that doesn't have a trainer.

And good luck with differentiating your head from your ass, or was it your fingers?

You really hit the nail on the head though with how unhappy you are with your product since it isn't doing what you want it to do. I'm sure they would have called you an ignorant **** had you spoken up and suggested a way to avoid it becoming an issue for them too, right? Why do I say this? Because that's what you've done here. You attacked me personally which is asinine and then have the audacity to act like I want to be the center of this site.. and then you allowed one of your trainer developers to have a go too. All for someone to dare suggest something as simple as letting people know what they are getting for $300 worth of points.

The lack of common sense involved here is crazy. You have everyone kissing your ass because they know you have the temper of a 5 year old mongoloid with a candy urge. Do you think that's HELPING your membership? Or maybe your, according to you, pointless point voting and microtransactions?

You won't get me bowing down and kissing your ass like some of the kids that come here, sorry. You need an attitude adjustment, and a serious one at that.

Now.. if you considered my first post "disrespectful", maybe you can adjust that thinking.. since that was actually me making a suggestion. This post, however, is disrespectful.

Maybe the difference is obvious, maybe not. But bear in mind, I'm responding to two of your outrageously assholish responses along with one from one of YOUR developers when all I did was simply suggest something that's going to save you time and face.

[Edited by Bacon Overlord, 3/28/2014 5:42:43 PM]

[Edited by Bacon Overlord, 3/28/2014 5:51:27 PM]

 
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quote:
originally posted by Bacon Overlord

3500 points...

For three very basic hex edited memory addresses and a speed change?

Suggestion:
In order to keep from ****ing people off about the amount of points they invest in something like this game, you might want to advertise what exactly you're going to include in the trainer.

That way there is no surprise when you get something like this.... for $300 worth of points I expected a slot editor, no reload, float/fly mode, teleport, etc.

Kind of keeps you from losing credibility on what you're going to provide in the future too.

[Edited by Bacon Overlord, 3/28/2014 9:15:30 AM]

first off, nobody suggested anything for this game other than money (including you) UNTIL TODAY. there's been 30 downloads for this trainer since we put it out... 30... so clearly it's not that big of a deal game. for reference, the 21st trainer for total war rome 2 update that we put out yesterday already has 500 downloads..

how can i POSSIBLY ADVERTISE what i am going to put into a trainer until I PLAY THE GAME ITSELF..

it's posts like this that make me want to just release trainers like we did before on only the games WE want to work on and forget these stupid budget titles that nobody plays... the request center is just that... A REQUEST CENTER.

thanks for your super snarky comments. you may have helped us more than you think.. i mean why should I let CH lose credibility working on these dink titles nobody plays when i can focus on the big titles or titles like company of heroes 2 and total war rome 2 that update every day. also you've given us an idea that perhaps we need to specifically state in our request center that if a person spends $1000 to make a non-popular title trainer available, that it is CH that reserves the right to decide if and what options we can make for that low budget, non-popular game... we will certainly do that now, thanks.

btw, dont assume just because you can search money out on cheatengine that YOU can easily make a trainer for a game that does the same thing automatically..

here is the code section that is used to get the money/health/etc. for this game...

00C855F4 - 8B 90 90030000 - mov edx,[eax+00000390]

i leave it up to you to try and find out how to divine the money health and several other things from that...

have a nice day.

[Edited by Caliber, 3/28/2014 10:53:20 AM]

Actually, funny guy, I have already hex edited this out. I don't have any idea why it took you hours into the dead of night. It literally took 3 minutes with a hex editor after changing values for ammo, health and loot.

There aren't even any pointers in this game...

But yes, you wouldn't know that until you have played it. But, again, that's the inherent flaw in putting a value against something before you know what it's worth.

WE have a reference of what it's worth... $300 of points.

If you can sit there and tell me that you spent $300 of time in putting that together, then I will sincerely tell you "I'm sorry" and then offer my services at using Cheat Engine to find simple whole integers that didn't take more than fast tracking of the 1st headers...

But I'm not here to tell you how to do your job. I'm simply responding to your rude response to a post where I simply suggested that you put a little more effort into something that is VALUED at $300 so you don't lose credibility in the future.

But hey, you can rant about it if you want.

And lastly allow me to say that if you actually HAD working trainers for all the big-budget games after they've been around for more than 6 months, you guys wouldn't even know who I was.. because that's what I complained about before. So, by all means, if this is a distraction from keeping the other trainers up and running then it's probably either time to hire more help or focus on what's important.

And that part is MY rant.

[Edited by Bacon Overlord, 3/28/2014 5:59:07 PM]

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