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Locked Topic  Sooo many games with retired status
Bacon Overlord_old  posted on Nov 07, 2013 5:16:10 PM - Report post

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Lately I've been buying games from the relatively popular charity-website (not sure if should mention who it is, so I won't) and every time I look up a game, it seems about 90% of the time the trainer is retired.

But I look at the game status and there hasn't been a patch for them for up to 2 or 3 years in some cases...

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but you could have produced an update to that game's trainer 2 or 3 years ago and wouldn't have had to have done a single update to it since then.. as long as there aren't any patches.

Granted, some games are made Steam-compatible. That would, I'm sure, require a patch.

I recommend some kind of "legacy" trainer status. When a game reaches the point where you retire it.. for whatever reason.. put it on the "legacy" listing. Then update the trainers for it every 3 months (or check to see if it needs one). In most cases you won't have any updates to do. But we can actually have a working trainer for those games instead of searching game after game after game that has been retired years ago or that doesn't have a trainer at all.

That way you keep your paying costumers happy, you really have low-maintenance on those games anyway.. win/win.

PWizard  posted on Nov 07, 2013 5:44:06 PM - Report post

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BTW -- Games are retired for a reason. We have no fewer than 3000 titles on active status at any given time, many of which update on a near daily basis. Every time we have to reinstall some 2 year old game that patched in order to add floating pumpkin heads for Halloween, we have uninstall something else that will probably patch the next day. All of this takes time and we have a limited amount of it. We can't re-visit every 10 year old game every time GOG decides to put it on sale for 35 cents, just to have a grand total of about 5 members download it.

[Edited by moderator PWizard, 11/7/2013 5:49:02 PM]

Bacon Overlord_old  posted on Nov 08, 2013 1:42:22 PM - Report post

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I must just be unlucky then.. just a few random selections in the first THREE LETTERS of my Steam collection (A, B, C).....

Just a comment: You can't really count a game as active if there hasn't been an update in months or years and the last few comments (especially those that go unanswered for months) were that it doesn't work... Closing the comments without justification just makes it look like you don't have the time to deal with your customers.

When I mention "not working" in my list below, that indicates that the game is classified as "active", but the trainer is not. That's either because of several unanswered comments in the forum about the game, an update that has happened without a change to the trainer, or the fact that it was made available on Steam without an update to the trainer.

The ones that say "no trainer" indicate you either have a link in the trainer section to no trainer, or there is no mention of the game at all. It IS, however, confusing to have links to trainers that don't exist.

Hopefully you take this as constructive criticism and a way to make your website better.

After all, those 5 members you mentioned, that go to download that 10 year old game.. have paid you to get a working trainer.

And yes, I'm among the people you've issued rude responses to when I've asked about the state of games.

A new beginning - final cut - no trainer
A Valley without wind - last update May 2012 - Current version 1.2
A valley without wind 2 - no trainer
A Virus named Tom - no trainer
AI War - Fleet Command - retired
Alpha Prime - No trainer
Alpha Protocol - Last UPdate 2011 - Several posts about it not working months ago
Amazing Adventures Around the World - No trainer
Amazing Adventures: The Lost Tomb - No trainer
Amnesia : The Dark Descent - Posts about problems with trainer
Anna - Extended Edition - no trainer
Anno 2070 - SEveral posts about trainer not working - closed by Pwizard without resolution
Anodyne - no trainer
antichamber - no trainer
Apogee Throwback Pack - no trainer
armed and dangerous - no trainer
Assassin's creed - not working according to various forum posts
Assassin's creed: Brotherhood - not working according to varous forum posts. Suggestion: Uninstall IE10
Assassin's creed 2 - not working according to various forum posts
Atom Zombie Smasher - not working according to various forum posts
Avadon: The black Fortress - not working for GOG version, interesting PWizard response
avencast - No steam version
Awesomenauts - retired
Axel & Pixel - no trainer
back to the future series (5 games) - no trainers
The Baconing - not working according to forum posts/no steam version
Baldur's Gate: Enhanced edition - not working according to forum posts, 0x90 trying to help.
The Bard's Tale - not working/no steam version
Bastion - not working according to several forum posts/Caliber claims it works fine.
Batman: Arkham Asylum GOTY Edition - No trainer
Batman: Arkham Asylum - trainer not working, Pwizard response of "no" when asked if it will be updated
Batman: Arkham City - Thread closed by Pwizard after several claims that the trainer isn't working
Bejeweled 2 Deluxe - no trainer
Bejeweled 3 - not working according to several months-old posts in the forum
Beyond good and Evil - not working according to every post in the forums
Big Money! Deluxe - no trainer
Bioshock - not working according to forum posts, a huge workaround posted by members months ago, no response by admins
blocks that matter - no trainer
Blood bowl: Legendary Edition - no trainer
Bone series - no trainers
The book of unwritten tales - no trainer
Bookworm anything (3 versions I own) - no trainers
Braid - not working according to the last few posts that were months ago
Broken Sword: Shdadow of the Templars - no trainer
Bully: Scholarship edition - not working according to posts made in 2011.. last update was 2009
Call of Duty - Not working since 2007 according to numerous posts
Call of Duty 2 - no trainer
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare - not working/no steam version, no updates according to Pwizard
Call of Duty 3 - Retired
Capsized - can't find game according to the last few posts in 2011...so, not working
Cave Story plus - doesn't work according to last posts, people being directed to cheatscapes
Chains - no trainer
Chrome - no trainer
Chrome: Specforce - no trainer
Chronicles of Riddic: Assault on Dark Athena - retired
Chuzzle Deluxe - no trainer
CivCity: Rome - not working according to posts back in 2011, last updated 2006
Command and Conquer: Red Alert 3 - Uprising - not working according to all the latest posts
Cosmic Osmo - no trainer
Counter strike - no trainer
Counter strike :Condition zero - no trainer
Counter strike: Global offensive - no trainer
Counster Strike: Source - no trainer
Crash Time II - no trainer
Cryostasis - no trainer
crysis - not working according to all most recent posts, 64 bit edition removed, several locked threads over it
Crysis 2 - retired
Crysis: Warhead - not working according to all recent posts, people gave up and started discussing cheat codes.
Crysis 3 - most recent comments stating trainer not working, closed by Pwizard.

ServiusTheBear  posted on Nov 08, 2013 2:35:09 PM - Report post

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Note those without trainers have probably not had enough people asking to see if a trainer can be made or do not even need a trainer for it. Also those that have been retired have either been stopped due to constant complaints/combined with ignorance to read the trouble shooter and the help that has been given. Or not providing enough information to so it could be reproduced to fix. Note if the makers see it running on there own systems. Then the trainer is working. If the end user fails to get it working even after they have followed the help then there is not much else that can be done. I could go on.
PWizard  posted on Nov 08, 2013 3:48:20 PM - Report post

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So, we're supposed to make a trainer for all of the Counter Strike games? I'm sure that would go over well with the CS community.

We are not going to automatically make a trainer for every single game known to man. If that is what you are expecting out of your big $49 membership fee then you need to go elsewhere. That doesn't even cover the cost of a single game yet you expect trainers for every game, plus every update and until the end of time. Give me a friggin break.

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