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Posted: Sep 09, 2013 3:55:20 PM - Report post  (0)  (0)       Post Reply  post reply  

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I enjoy the game, my only real issues are the grit/afternoon lighting and filter, army limitations making it so I cant have my usual small roving patrols, and the squalor system which I hope to rebalance for myself in a mod in the future. I don't like that every army has to have a general even if it's just a single unit. Some things REALLY should not cause squalor such as the higher tier farms.

Graphics are pretty darn good, I just want to get rid of the gritty filter and the afternoon only lighting. I crave mid-day fights and morning battles.

The maps don't vary all that much in a region but I can deal with that just fine.

The AI for me has been acceptable but they're really annoying and half the time threaten me for money while asking for treaties.

It's pretty darn fun to play other than that. It is a pretty buggy launch for many so unless your PC is a good one it sounds like you'd be better off waiting a month or two for the bugfix patches to roll out.

it actually seems to be the other way around, the people with problems seems to be in the high end with pc's (myself includet), while im seeing people with 2-3+ year old rigs running it fine (fps wise)

from everything i read sofar on the forums, it would seem that the more recent pc you have, the higher risk of it not working


.....which is sad, to say the least

oh and to answer the OP, no, the game in its current state, is not worth getting.

even if you dodge the bullet with fps issues, the game itself is majorly screwede

[Edited by Drenus, 9/9/2013 8:34:42 AM]

Well that's interdasting because my pc runs it brilliantly. I've heard nothing really all that bad from high end users but the low to mid have had loads of graphical issue such as the "zombie romans" or blood red skies. The only time I have issues is when I screw around with the memory too much via trainers and cheat engine and even then it's rare.

If you're wondering where my PC is at here's what I've got for performance:
3.25 GHz 6 core Intel i7
EVGA Superclocked GeForce GTX 680
16GB RAM
Asus Rampage IV Extreme Motherboard
Windows 7 Professional Edition 64 bit
128GB SSD
2TB HDD 7200 RPM 6GB/s (where my steam games reside)

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Posted: Sep 09, 2013 6:05:59 PM - Report post  (0)  (0)       Post Reply  post reply  

 quote:
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 originally posted by Drenus:

 quote:
 originally posted by DarkMandalore:

I enjoy the game, my only real issues are the grit/afternoon lighting and filter, army limitations making it so I cant have my usual small roving patrols, and the squalor system which I hope to rebalance for myself in a mod in the future. I don't like that every army has to have a general even if it's just a single unit. Some things REALLY should not cause squalor such as the higher tier farms.

Graphics are pretty darn good, I just want to get rid of the gritty filter and the afternoon only lighting. I crave mid-day fights and morning battles.

The maps don't vary all that much in a region but I can deal with that just fine.

The AI for me has been acceptable but they're really annoying and half the time threaten me for money while asking for treaties.

It's pretty darn fun to play other than that. It is a pretty buggy launch for many so unless your PC is a good one it sounds like you'd be better off waiting a month or two for the bugfix patches to roll out.

it actually seems to be the other way around, the people with problems seems to be in the high end with pc's (myself includet), while im seeing people with 2-3+ year old rigs running it fine (fps wise)

from everything i read sofar on the forums, it would seem that the more recent pc you have, the higher risk of it not working


.....which is sad, to say the least

oh and to answer the OP, no, the game in its current state, is not worth getting.

even if you dodge the bullet with fps issues, the game itself is majorly screwede

[Edited by Drenus, 9/9/2013 8:34:42 AM]

Well that's interdasting because my pc runs it brilliantly. I've heard nothing really all that bad from high end users but the low to mid have had loads of graphical issue such as the "zombie romans" or blood red skies. The only time I have issues is when I screw around with the memory too much via trainers and cheat engine and even then it's rare.

If you're wondering where my PC is at here's what I've got for performance:
3.25 GHz 6 core Intel i7
EVGA Superclocked GeForce GTX 680
16GB RAM
Asus Rampage IV Extreme Motherboard
Windows 7 Professional Edition 64 bit
128GB SSD
2TB HDD 7200 RPM 6GB/s (where my steam games reside)

''mostly'' for highend rigs then

and just to show how random it is, a guy on the steam forum for Rome, listed his speccs, as dual titans, and he didn't get above 25ish FPS in battles

im not a godly expert on pc's, but nor am i clueless to it, and it baffles me, how random the performance issues hits, i mean of all people, a guy with dual titans should eat this game for breakfast

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Posted: Sep 10, 2013 4:22:15 AM - Report post  (1)  (0)       Post Reply  post reply  

i love this game

only complaints are minor bugs here and there, and i hate the extra layer of micromanagment they added with politics. it is fun at the start when you only have a few provinces and people to manage, but once you expand it becomes too much to think about while trying to wage a 3 front war and develop new territory.
it also becomes a full time job keeping cities happy later on.

other than the the battles are incredible (not seeing the AI problems everyone keeps going on about. it is just as dumb as any other total war title i can remember) and they feel very epic but at the same time very controlled and tight.
the coastal assaults add a great new dimension to battles.

unit variety is a nice change of pace from the last 3 total war games. when you fight another culture you really have to pay attention to their unit types, their tactics, and their strengths/weaknesses. no single tactic will beat every army you face. (ie the roman maniple works wonders against greeks and egypt but when i tried it against an Iceni assault they broke my line faster than i have ever seen and i had to switch to a hannibal style retreat and flank)

all in all I would say rome 2 manages to live up to rome total war in some ways, falls short in others, and totally surpasses it in most key areas

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Posted: Sep 10, 2013 4:56:56 AM - Report post  (0)  (0)       Post Reply  post reply  

yea only complaints is a buggy launch but it has a lot of action
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Posted: Sep 10, 2013 11:56:03 AM - Report post  (0)  (0)       Post Reply  post reply  

As with most PC games these days, Rome 2 is just not finished for customer release! It has a lot of HW related bugs depending on your configuration (I am OK on that point) but also a lot of AI issues. The campaign AI is just not balanced and you have to spend a lot of time getting your city management under control. The battle AI has the same balance issues and battles are way too fast! All in all I like the game but will stop playing it now for a month or two until all the patches are out and the modding community has had more of a chance to rectify the job CA should have done.
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Posted: Sep 10, 2013 1:51:37 PM - Report post  (0)  (0)       Post Reply  post reply  

As of now it's not very much worth getting. There are too many bugs out and a lot of the good features have been too streamlined and at least one feature bloated out to incredible proportions. Plus, there's no way you'll be able to play a full game of coop or online of any kind as you will desync very easily.

The AI is also quite poor, and needs quite a large amount of fixing. It feels as if this game is still in beta, it's definitely not how they advertised it.

If I were you and not sure of whether to get it then I'd suggest you wait for the price to drop a bit, because that will also be when some of the bugs will get worked out.

Overall, it's quite a poor game but it has a lot of potential once a few major bugs get fixed.

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Posted: Sep 10, 2013 4:47:47 PM - Report post  (0)  (0)       Post Reply  post reply  

As with Payday 2, it's an unfinished product, whether through missing or buggy content.. or the fact that in ROME 2.. NOTHING was really bug tested.

The launch was just terrible. Protip: test the game before you release it.

The AI.. in short is worse than Payday's bot AI (un-related games, I know). It is just bad, they don't even give a challenge on Legendary.

Family Trees, Faction politics.. are a lot more complicated, why? I don't know.

Typical "take parts out of the game and sell it as DLC" crap, yeehaw.

Remember those cool in-game cutscenes in like Shogun 2 or etc, where you can see your assassin kill someone or fail? Sorry, none of that at the moment.

Battles, Unit formations.. they're also broken to hell. They end quickly and units don't hold their formation for more than I don't know. Naval Battles are also broken, go figure.

Oh, I forgot, multiplayer is broken too. Crashes ahoy.

tl;dr, I'm sure a few of these problems were pre-patch, but there are still a lot of issues. In light of all this, the game is pretty fun. Is it too late for patches? Probably not. But they need to fix all this, they -have- to.

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Posted: Sep 10, 2013 10:18:41 PM - Report post  (0)  (0)       Post Reply  post reply  

Everything is great about this game. It has a few rough spots but nothing they can't fix in the near future. My only gripe(if you can even call it that) are the long end of turn wait times later on in a campaign. It can last a minute. Coming from shogun where it only lasts a few seconds.

The great parts I really like in no particular order;
Stances - double move(but can't attack) yes please
Legion skills - leveling up your legion separate from commander
Commander switch - switch your general on the fly
No transport system required - Your army will automatically aquire transport ships from docks when traversing over water.
Strategic view

Theres more but I can't recall off the top of my head.

One thing that does irk me is no walls on minor settlements... ever!

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