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    Ultralazuli posted on Apr 17, 2013 12:26:13 AM - Report post
     
    I believe I've mentioned this in passing before here, but my issues before were more about the trainers crashing rather than glitching, so I never really followed up on it. I used the IE10 fix for Win7, and that cleared up the crashing problemos, but this glitch is still happening.

    A while back, you guys changed the visual style and layout of your trainers to a sharper more modern look, rather than using the same borders as your system uses (Windows Classic in my case). And now, any newer trainer that I use from you guys glitches after a short while of being 'in focus', turning completely white in an instant, to where I cannot see any of the buttons or key commands for the trainer. Also when this happens, the trainer does not respond to low-level close requests, meaning I cannot close it out from the X button or from the taskbar, I have to use Task Manager and find the process and End Process to close it out. And lastly, whenever I try to click on the trainer itself, it acts as though it isn't even there on the screen; my clicks go right through to my desktop or whatever is 'underneath' the trainer's supposed window. I can usually use the trainer for it's intended purpose, as the keybindings usually still work, but I cannot see what the keybindings do, so unless I can memorize the bindings quickly (as the glitch usually happens pretty quickly) I usually have to close out the trainer and find a different one from somewhere else. I CAN however click on the Advert for CHs.com where you advertise trainers for new games and your guys' website, though I assume that's just a simple URL embed.

    The older trainers (such as Spore, Dawn of War Soulstorm, etc) that use the old layout do not do this, only the newer trainers. Is there any way to solve this? I have a ZOTAC Firestorm nVidia GTX 440 with up to date drivers. Any help you guys can give would be appreciated.

    Here is a PrintScreen of a comparison between the two types of trainers: Link
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    fullmetal5550_old posted on Apr 17, 2013 3:01:45 AM - Report post
     
    quote:
    originally posted by Ultralazuli

    I believe I've mentioned this in passing before here, but my issues before were more about the trainers crashing rather than glitching, so I never really followed up on it. I used the IE10 fix for Win7, and that cleared up the crashing problemos, but this glitch is still happening.

    A while back, you guys changed the visual style and layout of your trainers to a sharper more modern look, rather than using the same borders as your system uses (Windows Classic in my case). And now, any newer trainer that I use from you guys glitches after a short while of being 'in focus', turning completely white in an instant, to where I cannot see any of the buttons or key commands for the trainer. Also when this happens, the trainer does not respond to low-level close requests, meaning I cannot close it out from the X button or from the taskbar, I have to use Task Manager and find the process and End Process to close it out. And lastly, whenever I try to click on the trainer itself, it acts as though it isn't even there on the screen; my clicks go right through to my desktop or whatever is 'underneath' the trainer's supposed window. I can usually use the trainer for it's intended purpose, as the keybindings usually still work, but I cannot see what the keybindings do, so unless I can memorize the bindings quickly (as the glitch usually happens pretty quickly) I usually have to close out the trainer and find a different one from somewhere else. I CAN however click on the Advert for CHs.com where you advertise trainers for new games and your guys' website, though I assume that's just a simple URL embed.

    The older trainers (such as Spore, Dawn of War Soulstorm, etc) that use the old layout do not do this, only the newer trainers. Is there any way to solve this? I have a ZOTAC Firestorm nVidia GTX 440 with up to date drivers. Any help you guys can give would be appreciated.

    Here is a PrintScreen of a comparison between the two types of trainers: Link

    There is a text file also included with the trainers that show what the key bindings are and explain what the options do. Until you find a fix you can use the text file to know what the key bindings are.

     
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    Ultralazuli posted on Apr 17, 2013 3:06:17 AM - Report post
     
    quote:
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    quote:
    originally posted by Ultralazuli

    I believe I've mentioned this in passing before here, but my issues before were more about the trainers crashing rather than glitching, so I never really followed up on it. I used the IE10 fix for Win7, and that cleared up the crashing problemos, but this glitch is still happening.

    A while back, you guys changed the visual style and layout of your trainers to a sharper more modern look, rather than using the same borders as your system uses (Windows Classic in my case). And now, any newer trainer that I use from you guys glitches after a short while of being 'in focus', turning completely white in an instant, to where I cannot see any of the buttons or key commands for the trainer. Also when this happens, the trainer does not respond to low-level close requests, meaning I cannot close it out from the X button or from the taskbar, I have to use Task Manager and find the process and End Process to close it out. And lastly, whenever I try to click on the trainer itself, it acts as though it isn't even there on the screen; my clicks go right through to my desktop or whatever is 'underneath' the trainer's supposed window. I can usually use the trainer for it's intended purpose, as the keybindings usually still work, but I cannot see what the keybindings do, so unless I can memorize the bindings quickly (as the glitch usually happens pretty quickly) I usually have to close out the trainer and find a different one from somewhere else. I CAN however click on the Advert for CHs.com where you advertise trainers for new games and your guys' website, though I assume that's just a simple URL embed.

    The older trainers (such as Spore, Dawn of War Soulstorm, etc) that use the old layout do not do this, only the newer trainers. Is there any way to solve this? I have a ZOTAC Firestorm nVidia GTX 440 with up to date drivers. Any help you guys can give would be appreciated.

    Here is a PrintScreen of a comparison between the two types of trainers: Link

    There is a text file also included with the trainers that show what the key bindings are and explain what the options do. Until you find a fix you can use the text file to know what the key bindings are.

    I suppose that will have to do, bit of a hassle since I'm so used to using the manager and just double clicking.

    Hoping someone has a clue about this.

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    Ultralazuli posted on Apr 17, 2013 3:06:18 AM - Report post
     
    quote:
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    quote:
    originally posted by Ultralazuli

    I believe I've mentioned this in passing before here, but my issues before were more about the trainers crashing rather than glitching, so I never really followed up on it. I used the IE10 fix for Win7, and that cleared up the crashing problemos, but this glitch is still happening.

    A while back, you guys changed the visual style and layout of your trainers to a sharper more modern look, rather than using the same borders as your system uses (Windows Classic in my case). And now, any newer trainer that I use from you guys glitches after a short while of being 'in focus', turning completely white in an instant, to where I cannot see any of the buttons or key commands for the trainer. Also when this happens, the trainer does not respond to low-level close requests, meaning I cannot close it out from the X button or from the taskbar, I have to use Task Manager and find the process and End Process to close it out. And lastly, whenever I try to click on the trainer itself, it acts as though it isn't even there on the screen; my clicks go right through to my desktop or whatever is 'underneath' the trainer's supposed window. I can usually use the trainer for it's intended purpose, as the keybindings usually still work, but I cannot see what the keybindings do, so unless I can memorize the bindings quickly (as the glitch usually happens pretty quickly) I usually have to close out the trainer and find a different one from somewhere else. I CAN however click on the Advert for CHs.com where you advertise trainers for new games and your guys' website, though I assume that's just a simple URL embed.

    The older trainers (such as Spore, Dawn of War Soulstorm, etc) that use the old layout do not do this, only the newer trainers. Is there any way to solve this? I have a ZOTAC Firestorm nVidia GTX 440 with up to date drivers. Any help you guys can give would be appreciated.

    Here is a PrintScreen of a comparison between the two types of trainers: Link

    There is a text file also included with the trainers that show what the key bindings are and explain what the options do. Until you find a fix you can use the text file to know what the key bindings are.

    I suppose that will have to do, bit of a hassle since I'm so used to using the manager and just double clicking.

    Hoping someone has a clue about this.

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    Caliber posted on Apr 17, 2013 7:23:48 AM - Report post
     
    I am the programmer of the trainers. our trainers use the standard windows api to present the graphic windows of our trainers. there is nothing special about them at all. in fact we aren't using direct x or any sort of graphics calls other than the standard windows api calls.

    with that said, it seems like the calls to the api that draw the graphics over the button hot spots and main trainer screen isn't being called or fails. this can be some sort of graphics card and/or bizarre computer driver mismatch, but I would have no way of knowing since I don't have your computer and cannot read any 'error' numbers that the call might send back. even then I wouldn't know what to do with them.

    with all of this said, I have NO SUGGESTIONS for you. we've literally released 1000's of trainers to 1000's of users with the latest trainer templates. we've even had people use them in virtual PC environs where the graphics is emulated with success.

    there is nothing that we can do to fix this problem since on multiple computers in multiple OS we have never seen this and cannot reproduce it here.

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    Ultralazuli posted on Apr 17, 2013 11:43:02 AM - Report post
     
    Would a DXDIAG or something similar help? Or if there is some sort of debug function I could call forth to log errors? You mentioned before it might be some weird runtime SDK?

    I just don't feel like it's fair to give up just because I'm the only one having this problem...
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    Ultralazuli posted on Apr 17, 2013 6:13:08 PM - Report post
     
    A friend of mine who is a fellow programmer said it may have something to do with a GDI memory leak, but that was his best guess.
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