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LordVenator  posted on Mar 14, 2013 6:44:33 PM - Report post

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There you go guys, Link.
 
Trioxin245  posted on Mar 15, 2013 11:01:14 AM - Report post

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[Edited by Trioxin245, 3/15/2013 11:02:05 AM]

 
Trioxin245  posted on Mar 15, 2013 11:01:52 AM - Report post

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Early days yet, but people are so quick to call foul.

You have to realise this is a major step in terms of what is on offer, name another game where it has cities in control with so much going on at once. There isn't.

If people are patient it will get fixed, and don't blame EA for the programming that is Maxis who did that.

Whats next EA's fault for the sky being blue?

Your an idiot, sorry had to say it. But it is EA's fault they OWN Maxis!! EA gives maxis a ridiculous deadline to have the game completed. And if maxis was to say "Hey EA we need more time, this is not right or the code is not stable", EA responds with, "NO! We're moving on, we'll fix it a DLC later, no one will notice". Also EA will threaten them with budget cuts or staff cuts, or will replace the developers with their own goon squad who all they see is $$$. Look it up happened with Bio ware, and some-other developer.

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Sutek  posted on Mar 15, 2013 5:58:49 PM - Report post

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bullfrog, westwood, origin. all got ran into the ground by ea
 
Neo7  posted on Mar 15, 2013 8:56:45 PM - Report post

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originally posted by DABhand

Early days yet, but people are so quick to call foul.

You have to realise this is a major step in terms of what is on offer, name another game where it has cities in control with so much going on at once. There isn't.

If people are patient it will get fixed, and don't blame EA for the programming that is Maxis who did that.

Whats next EA's fault for the sky being blue?

If EA was in charge of the oversight of QA on this game then I have no sympathy at all. The QA throughout all stages on the game wasn't even close to realistic data. They want realistic results they should be following examples like Blizzard and actually stress test before going live. A limited open beta where you get kicked off after an hour regardless of connectivity is not realistic and whoever thought that was realistic needs to be slapped repeatedly. This could have been easily caught in a proper open beta and fixed well before the actual release.

Major step or not, this launch is not reassuring to consumers as EAs name is all over the packaging. Players should not have to "be patient" because the game had no business going live in such a state. This is a no-brainer decision at the ****ing executive level. This is telling me that executives at EA have no idea wtf they're doing and I don't see a forecast of when it will be remedied. Even now the risk currently is still too high to justify buying the game and the critical point for releasing the game is gone. By the time they actually do fix the servers, very few will care enough about this game to buy it.

I do have to say that at the very top of EA has some redeeming qualities where someone who managed to e-mail an executive managed to get a refund over the terrible launch after multiple refusals with customer support (including preparing to perform a chargeback with the understanding it'll mean being permanently banned from Origin)

[Edited by Neo7, 3/15/2013 8:59:37 PM]

 
Bomgto  posted on Mar 16, 2013 3:15:33 AM - Report post

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yeah lets put the blame on EA why sky are blue, cow said Muu, and many other thing.. well it is EA fault the game came out badly.. they made a mistake on almost every game now.. includeing FIFA 13... so tell me when will we stop bying game made by EA?? then im sure they will stop and think b4 release another stupid game... i bet yall $10 that when Dargon Age 3 come out ( which is made by EA ) it will have something wrong with it...
 
DABhand  posted on Mar 16, 2013 7:45:14 AM - Report post

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originally posted by Trioxin245

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originally posted by DABhand

Early days yet, but people are so quick to call foul.

You have to realise this is a major step in terms of what is on offer, name another game where it has cities in control with so much going on at once. There isn't.

If people are patient it will get fixed, and don't blame EA for the programming that is Maxis who did that.

Whats next EA's fault for the sky being blue?

Your an idiot, sorry had to say it. But it is EA's fault they OWN Maxis!! EA gives maxis a ridiculous deadline to have the game completed. And if maxis was to say "Hey EA we need more time, this is not right or the code is not stable", EA responds with, "NO! We're moving on, we'll fix it a DLC later, no one will notice". Also EA will threaten them with budget cuts or staff cuts, or will replace the developers with their own goon squad who all they see is $$$. Look it up happened with Bio ware, and some-other developer.

[Edited by Trioxin245, 3/15/2013 11:03:10 AM]

Actually, Maxis reported back to EA that the game was ready for the public, both EA and EA Benelux then went forward to make the masters and proceed to manufacturing.

Maxis may be a subsidiary of EA, but they don't fully own it yet. Just like Bioware is also a Subsidiary.

EA has been on damage control for the whole problems, the servers being full is obviously an oversight from the data given from the Maxis beta they had which was obviously wrong and steps are being taken to make the servers more robust and have larger capacity to handle the mass of people who bought the game.

As for the pathing issue, this is something that shouldn't have passed Quality Control or should have been noticed in the beta and alpha at least. But the fault can be put down to Maxis and the people who agreed to the beta, the problem these days is people who beta software are more interested in just being first to play it and have no intention of beta'ing games properly. So they won't report any issues, or when they do it is usually a whine on the forums. Again Maxis should have noticed this also.

Again I will say to people the project itself was a huge undertaking, nothing of this size has been done before between multiple players and thousands of AI's running at once in their respective cities that people could view. There is bugs.

But the main problem is with today's generation is they are too eager to cry and whinge about things, it has to be perfect from day 1, nothing is perfect on day 1, not even simple games. If they would be patient within a week or two most of the bugs would be eliminated if they are reported correctly again, as said most whine about it that they don't properly report the problem and it becomes a guessing game as what they were talking about.

Also it is you're and i'm amazed Neo missed that and didn't edit your post.

 
DABhand  posted on Mar 16, 2013 7:47:55 AM - Report post

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yeah lets put the blame on EA why sky are blue, cow said Muu, and many other thing.. well it is EA fault the game came out badly.. they made a mistake on almost every game now.. includeing FIFA 13... so tell me when will we stop bying game made by EA?? then im sure they will stop and think b4 release another stupid game... i bet yall $10 that when Dargon Age 3 come out ( which is made by EA ) it will have something wrong with it...

Its made by Bioware. And I am on the team developing it (had a contract extended with them after my work on Generals 2).

Also not one game in history of 32 bit based systems have been perfect on day 1 (as I said in my above post).

Anyone who thinks that has no idea about gaming to be honest.

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