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Bioware has an F rating on BBB
 
malyg  posted on Apr 04, 2012 9:01:52 AM - Report post

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I'm a Bioware fan, but apparently there last 3 games in The Old Republic, Dragonage 2 and Mass Effect 3 have all been misses.
I know a guy who works as a moderator over at the Bioware forums and he says Bioware has to have one of the worst fanbases. They're like the Sonic fanbase in that they are so critical of EVERYTHING Bioware do.
 
AdmiralAckbar  posted on Apr 04, 2012 9:15:41 AM - Report post

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I'm a Bioware fan, but apparently there last 3 games in The Old Republic, Dragonage 2 and Mass Effect 3 have all been misses.
I know a guy who works as a moderator over at the Bioware forums and he says Bioware has to have one of the worst fanbases. They're like the Sonic fanbase in that they are so critical of EVERYTHING Bioware do.

I did not know that. Honestly TOR and DA 2 weren't so bad and the BioWare games I've played were pretty good.

ME 3 wasn't so bad, except for the ending, which I disliked.

 
Skyheart  posted on Apr 04, 2012 9:24:26 AM - Report post

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The problem is that everyone seemed to have the opinion of "BioWare can do no wrong", but then finally they did something people didn't like and all of a sudden it's s***storm of the century.

I don't have enough time in the Universe to list all of the bad games and/or decisions developers have made since the dawn of gaming. There's no way in hell any Dev deserves this much hate and acid from their fan base.

Honestly... I know it's only a handful of people out of all of those who dislike the endings doing stuff like this, but it's seriously childish at best.

Complain about the endings, ask BioWare to fix them, explain them or re-write them, but to purposely (try to) destroy a companies reputation over a 10 minute segment of a game is screwed up. I don't care how much time people have invested into the ME series - I've put a good couple hundred hours in myself - at the end of the day they're only games.

The annoying thing is, as unlikely as it is, if EA were ever to decide BioWare wasn't worth the trouble and shut them down, these guys'd be the first ones to complain and say how great BioWare was and how they should have been kept.

[Edited by Skyheart, 4/4/2012 9:35:45 AM]

 
AdmiralP  posted on Apr 04, 2012 9:28:47 AM - Report post

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Getting a fail rating from the BBB is generally reserved for members in bad standing... perhaps Bioware is simply in arrears?!
 
ZZGashi  posted on Apr 04, 2012 10:09:00 AM - Report post

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originally posted by Skyheart

The problem is that everyone seemed to have the opinion of "BioWare can do no wrong", but then finally they did something people didn't like and all of a sudden it's s***storm of the century.

I don't have enough time in the Universe to list all of the bad games and/or decisions developers have made since the dawn of gaming. There's no way in hell any Dev deserves this much hate and acid from their fan base.

Honestly... I know it's only a handful of people out of all of those who dislike the endings doing stuff like this, but it's seriously childish at best.

Complain about the endings, ask BioWare to fix them, explain them or re-write them, but to purposely (try to) destroy a companies reputation over a 10 minute segment of a game is screwed up. I don't care how much time people have invested into the ME series - I've put a good couple hundred hours in myself - at the end of the day they're only games.

The annoying thing is, as unlikely as it is, if EA were ever to decide BioWare wasn't worth the trouble and shut them down, these guys'd be the first ones to complain and say how great BioWare was and how they should have been kept.

[Edited by Skyheart, 4/4/2012 9:35:45 AM]

I have to agree with Skyheart, it is just lunacy. Sure Bioware may or may not have made bad decisions about their games, people just unreasonably expect complete perfection.

I imagine that EA probably has an entire hand in Bioware's pie, so if anyone should suffer most of the blame for Bioware's past several games, it is most likely EA. They are probably trying to fix an already good system until it is broke.

 
QueenNic  posted on Apr 04, 2012 10:29:11 AM - Report post

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Bioware make good games and excellent DLC. They put a lot of effort in and it shows.

I am so annoyed with this drama. So what if people disliked the ending? That's no reason to create such a huge scene. Have none of these people played Fable 3? That game went downhill right before the ending, had no gratifying finale and the DLC is barely worth playing. By comparison, ME3 CLEARLY has had a lot of effort involved and the DLC will be awesome because it's Bioware and I'm yet to play bad Bioware DLC.

The ending isn't even bad. It's well made and engaging. Yes, it might be in a direction people don't like, but how does that make it bad? It wrapped up the game nicely, was epic to sit through and was probably very hard to write given all the choices you actually make in the series.

Of course this is the same fanbase that whined at Bioware to change the promo art of FemShep because a blonde would obviously be too stupid to save the galaxy, so it was apparent before the game came out that these people are whiny, entitled children.

 
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well, I can both agree and disagree with this. From a gamers standpoint, I agree that there should be put more efford into making games whole and have more depth etc, instead of just rushing out products which arent finished or should have had a few more weeks in beta - with that being said, its more of a publisher (or at least thoes supplying the funding) issue than an issue with Bioware. I think the gaming industry today has become way too focused on the money rather than putting honour into making a damned good game, and that is a serious problem. Everything has to be milked into oblivion to the point of it being a crappy/lousy game...

I disagree with the point of it being directed specificly at Bioware, when they are infact trying hard to actually make games with some/more depth than most of the other developers are. If anyone is to blame for the business being money hungry it is EA and Activision (imo, anyway), so direct all the hate at them instead...

 
Neo7  posted on Apr 04, 2012 1:20:28 PM - Report post

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quote:
originally posted by Skyheart

The problem is that everyone seemed to have the opinion of "BioWare can do no wrong", but then finally they did something people didn't like and all of a sudden it's s***storm of the century.

I don't have enough time in the Universe to list all of the bad games and/or decisions developers have made since the dawn of gaming. There's no way in hell any Dev deserves this much hate and acid from their fan base.

Honestly... I know it's only a handful of people out of all of those who dislike the endings doing stuff like this, but it's seriously childish at best.

Complain about the endings, ask BioWare to fix them, explain them or re-write them, but to purposely (try to) destroy a companies reputation over a 10 minute segment of a game is screwed up. I don't care how much time people have invested into the ME series - I've put a good couple hundred hours in myself - at the end of the day they're only games.

The annoying thing is, as unlikely as it is, if EA were ever to decide BioWare wasn't worth the trouble and shut them down, these guys'd be the first ones to complain and say how great BioWare was and how they should have been kept.

[Edited by Skyheart, 4/4/2012 9:35:45 AM]

Well the main problem with this is that Bioware hyped ME3 to hell. If you're going to shell out for the amount of advertising prior to game launch stating how it will be the next best thing, you have to ensure that the game lives up to the hype.

[Edited by Neo7, 4/4/2012 1:21:13 PM]

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