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SOPA and PIPA
 
Monkey007  posted on Jan 19, 2012 8:09:39 PM - Report post

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Heheh, just as I expected. I just knew this was going to happen.

An online war. Well, at least there won't be any casualties!

For now.

 
badassmofo20  posted on Jan 19, 2012 9:20:31 PM - Report post

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If threes one thing we do best, that's saying we are free and accepting small sacrifices for the greater good, through blind faith the leaders put power. when the ideas of many are controlled by the few, at times I feel hopeless, I see those ideas of the few controlling new ways of life, through fear of the unknown. Is there room for the little guy? how to rely on something that we say we hate... OOOOO sopa, we will learn to love you, just like every other idea that has been forced on our minds, just to become a monster that has no control.
 
shianova  posted on Jan 19, 2012 9:53:51 PM - Report post

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Money, it's always down to money. The sad part is that they actually think they can control something so big even Jesus would have a hard time doing. They can close or block access to what ever they want but it will just come back as it has always.
 
Mirraluka  posted on Jan 19, 2012 11:57:25 PM - Report post

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whether we like it or not "Where there is smoke, there is fire" and the internet will eventually be controlled one way or another to an extent, and yes in the long run it doe's and will come down to getting more money out of users.

So regardless of what the people in general say at the end of the day the Politicians will get their way and using Piracy is just the excuse for something that will eventually grow with control,and please tell me how long have politicians been interested in Piracy what a joke,and i'm not laughing it, stinks to High Heaven.

 
Monkey007  posted on Jan 20, 2012 2:17:24 AM - Report post

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They can't stop it. If they take down torrents/filehosting services then people will revert back to Private FTP's.

Even the FBI are not allowed to hack into your FTP unless they have proof that there is illegal content on it.

 
Skyheart  posted on Jan 20, 2012 3:17:43 AM - Report post

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Back in the days of Amiga PC's people would trade games/programs on floppy's in school and work. They will literally have to be able to have access to every PC in the world and monitor their disk contents to eradicate piracy on the internet.

Shutting down a filehost won't do squat except annoy people.

Then again, DDoSing a few sites and calling it hacking won't do squat either. They can't keep it up indefinitely, and the FBI (and the others) website is hardly central to their existence and operation.

As a side note, I'm pretty sure the taking down of Megaupload/Porn/Video didn't have anything to do with SOPA. The timing is convenient, but as I've mentioned somewhere else, filesharing sites have been a target for a long time. It was only a matter of time before they started coming down.

I'm not even sure the case will win anyway, since the creators are being charged/fined, though they have no control over what people upload and share, and it's almost impossible to track and eradicate all pirated materials (add a text file with the words "I'm a pirate" to a zip containing a pirated game, rename the file, and it becomes impossible to distinguish from genuinely shared files).

[Edited by Skyheart, 1/20/2012 4:49:23 AM]

 
Mirraluka  posted on Jan 20, 2012 6:29:01 AM - Report post

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originally posted by Monkey007

They can't stop it. If they take down torrents/filehosting services then people will revert back to Private FTP's.

Even the FBI are not allowed to hack into your FTP unless they have proof that there is illegal content on it.

Monkey007,remember that old addage "where there is a will there is a way",for me personally at my age i may not see it happen, but sooner or later these people will find the way to do what they want with the internet and that means Censorship its coming and nobody like you and me and all our members will not be able to stop it from happening.

Seriously i'll bet Neo7 knows sooner or later they will find a way to Censorship the Internet, and thats a compliment to you Neo7 with all the brains you have my friend.

 
Neo7  posted on Jan 20, 2012 7:52:45 AM - Report post

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originally posted by DABhand

Wikipedia only did it to gather support from the masses, they are after all been itching for donations lately.

Under SOPA/PIPA laws it will take a site to provide a working link to any files that are copyrighted to have action taken against them. If for instance Wikipedia in their "the pirate bay" article links to the site they are safe under said laws as they are not providing the direct links.

Neither will google be closed for being able to search for meta tags etc.

Its all been blown out of proportion. And those "big players" as said are only doing this support and "going dark" because they can get something out of it all from the increased traffic they may get for the support.

[Edited by DABhand, 1/19/2012 6:21:36 AM]

The site MegaUpload who was actually decently well at removing copyrighted material when reported (though extremely hard to discover when links are kept within secrets reasonably well) and was recently struck down by the US government. SOPA nor PIPA has not passed at all and this should serve how our government thinks "what is piracy" and their loose definition of it. MegaUpload is a company based in the United States (I think others are based elsewhere) which is one of the reasons why it was shut down.

Moving away from that though, I can say confidently that Cheat Happens probably would not exist either with this bill passed at all as there are gaming companies out there that do hate this website and claiming us as making "unauthorized 3rd party programs" and would not hesitate to use SOPA to shut down the site. US government doesn't give a damn what a trainer is as it isn't authorized by the company for it to be used on their products (see Blizzard's banning of trainer users). Same fate would happen to AR devices and GameShark as well as some companies label those as "unauthorized 3rd party tools".

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