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Skyheart  posted on Jan 19, 2012 7:12:11 AM - Report post

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Personally I don't care who who "goes dark" or why they do it, my opinion/post on the matter is based on what I've read myself, not what other people have said.

SOPA/PIPA was just the tip of the iceberg. Most other countries have similar legislation drafted but haven't had the balls to put through to a vote out of fear of being laughed out of their respective governments. If SOPA/PIPA is passed in the US, you can guarentee all of those other countries would pass their own, similar legislation. After that, it's only a matter of time until the Internet is no longer full of the free informational resources we enjoy today.

It may seem blown out of proportion to some because most of those against both acts - including myself - don't just see SOPA and PIPA, but what they stand for and what they'll open the door to for the future.

Like I said, anti-piracy is a good thing and SOPA and PIPA are a start in theory, but the practical implementation has a long way to go.

[Edited by Skyheart, 1/19/2012 7:13:38 AM]

 
bryanskrantz  posted on Jan 19, 2012 7:37:48 AM - Report post

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That's just it. The big corporate giants won't be taken down but the start-ups that DO link to what the government calls "unsafe" will be shut down. The government has no right under existing laws, and the constitution to limit free speech in any way, shape, or form.
 
benduhova  posted on Jan 19, 2012 11:19:39 AM - Report post

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quote:
originally posted by Skyheart

Personally I don't care who who "goes dark" or why they do it, my opinion/post on the matter is based on what I've read myself, not what other people have said.

SOPA/PIPA was just the tip of the iceberg. Most other countries have similar legislation drafted but haven't had the balls to put through to a vote out of fear of being laughed out of their respective governments. If SOPA/PIPA is passed in the US, you can guarentee all of those other countries would pass their own, similar legislation. After that, it's only a matter of time until the Internet is no longer full of the free informational resources we enjoy today.

It may seem blown out of proportion to some because most of those against both acts - including myself - don't just see SOPA and PIPA, but what they stand for and what they'll open the door to for the future.

Like I said, anti-piracy is a good thing and SOPA and PIPA are a start in theory, but the practical implementation has a long way to go.

[Edited by Skyheart, 1/19/2012 7:13:38 AM]

new zealand already has anti-piracy laws inplace your isp provider is suppose to warn you and temporarily dissconect your internet access for illegal downloads and repeated offences with result in permanent disconnection and court proceedings and if your isp provider doesnt enforce it then they can be taken to court.

 
QueenNic  posted on Jan 19, 2012 11:47:34 AM - Report post

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Apparently people think it will mean the death of the internet...

Protecting copyright is good, however I doubt they'll protect content made by smaller creators. It'll all be about big record labels and film companies instead of the ones who can barely afford to create content.

(And I'm pretty certain anti-piracy laws are already in Britain, I've heard of people having connections shut off and going to prison over online piracy)

As much as it's a problem, I doubt it'll ever go away, regardless of legislation.

 
Skyheart  posted on Jan 19, 2012 12:48:36 PM - Report post

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quote:
originally posted by Skyheart

Personally I don't care who who "goes dark" or why they do it, my opinion/post on the matter is based on what I've read myself, not what other people have said.

SOPA/PIPA was just the tip of the iceberg. Most other countries have similar legislation drafted but haven't had the balls to put through to a vote out of fear of being laughed out of their respective governments. If SOPA/PIPA is passed in the US, you can guarentee all of those other countries would pass their own, similar legislation. After that, it's only a matter of time until the Internet is no longer full of the free informational resources we enjoy today.

It may seem blown out of proportion to some because most of those against both acts - including myself - don't just see SOPA and PIPA, but what they stand for and what they'll open the door to for the future.

Like I said, anti-piracy is a good thing and SOPA and PIPA are a start in theory, but the practical implementation has a long way to go.

[Edited by Skyheart, 1/19/2012 7:13:38 AM]

new zealand already has anti-piracy laws inplace your isp provider is suppose to warn you and temporarily dissconect your internet access for illegal downloads and repeated offences with result in permanent disconnection and court proceedings and if your isp provider doesnt enforce it then they can be taken to court.

Exactly, and that's under current legislation. Under SOPA/PIPA there'd be no warning. I've also read that if convicted, you can expect an automatic 5 year sentence, though I can't remember where I read that part, so take that one as you will.

 
Monkey007  posted on Jan 19, 2012 12:53:31 PM - Report post

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Sounds wonderful. Wouldn't it feel awesome to know that there's someone watching your every download?

Kinda like an online regime.

Ohhhh nnnoooooo!!!

 
gwolf2u  posted on Jan 19, 2012 5:33:53 PM - Report post

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well they got MU down because of this
what it will be next
now Anonymous are DDoS-ing down stuff
if they plaid fair this would never happen
 
LordVenator  posted on Jan 19, 2012 7:05:57 PM - Report post

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