Bored guy? Most of his question were and reasonable to me.. and the Christian guy (lets refer to him as Richard) didn't know how to answer any of those questions. And no I clearly said in my post that I want this to stay peaceful and clean and respectful. Not caps and fighting. I just want some answers that Richard failed to answer.. Could you answer the question that he couldn't answer at the beginning? according to your religion who is god? or is god made of a group of 3 called "the holy trinity" as he said?
Since when does being bored mean that you're being unreasonable? He's bored because why else do you call into a daytime christian television show? (i always assumed it's because you're bored out of your skull or you're a fanatic). And regardless of whether or not you want this thread to remain calm and cool, people have habits of taking stuff like this way way too far.
And I guess the stock Christian answers to those questions go like this:
God is three peoples in one entity, the father son and the holy spirit, they are all the same God, and they all operate differently. (I'm telling you though, wikipedia will really help you more with you answers than I possibly can: Link)
[Edited by Latiosmaster47, 5/18/2011 11:48:20 PM]
I would suggest doing your own research online.
In my personal opinion,your just asking for a very ugly debate.
And I keep saying this a sadly narrow-minded way of looking at things.
I'm no believer and I don't support the vast majority of ideals touted by religions as the 'way things are to be done', but there's no denying that religion, before and during the early and mid 1000s, was a HUGE presence in spreading language and literacy across most of the world. The world's first libraries and schools were funded almost in their entirety by religious institutions.
And, for better or worse, the same can be said for the spread of culture and ideals.
[Edited by AdmiralThrawn, 5/19/2011 12:08:19 AM]
The spainish inquisition.The crusades.The knights templars.
The salem witch trials.
All in the name of "religion" or "god"
Like i said...it's going to turn into an ugly debate.
But as the caller said there is more than one verse in the bible where Jesus made an OBVIOUS DISTINCTION between him and god. How do you explain that? Also how do you explain a bunsh of Jews killing a god? or a part of a god.. Again I ask looking for answers not standing or being with any side. I'm really curious.
And for other people who think this will turn ugly, I see it going well until now, + If it turns ugly I will ask anyone with the rank of moderator to do what ever is appropriate like deleting it or so..
Yes, according to them Jesus is a prophet of god that has been sent to heaven before his death and replaced by a person who god made look exactly like Jesus, the guy who was replaced was the guy who told on jesus' in the first place when they were looking for him to kill him. They also believe in his return to earth on the days that will be close to judgment day according to Islam.
[Edited by SoldierOfPeace, 5/19/2011 12:31:05 AM]
I am sorry are you saying the church help spread writing and reading? You should say they help spread their religion and language used by force and fear, by declaring other languages and religions were false and would cause their souls to burn in eternal fire.
This is how most use religions by using fear to gain followers, and most religions use their system to gain monetary things.
Religion also opposed science heavily, if they didn't we could have been more technologically superior than now. Infact although the Vatican allows science to a degree, some other religions or extremists hate progression from science and call it evil.
Religions have been the biggest cause of wars this world has known, all because some other people preferred a different faith.
I hate the fact faiths decide to use media to force their crap down people's throats. Which has led scammers to do the same, especially in the US when people scam people out of cash for faith healing.
Plus there is no ONE religion, so who is correct? Should it be the Mayans? Should it be the Egyptians? Should it be the Chinese? They are among the oldest civilizations. What about some sort of Caveman religion if there was one? So how can anyone sit and say "our religion is the one and only religion you should use"...
Infact I will go as far as to say, if anyone ever answers the question "Who made God?" then perhaps then I will think about religion in my life. But since that answer will never come I shant hold my breath.