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Do you believe in Hell?
 
TalonKarde  posted on Apr 06, 2011 10:42:01 AM - Report post

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i do not believe there's a hell, i believe we die and then that's it.
 
Darkish  posted on Apr 06, 2011 10:45:21 AM - Report post

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originally posted by Evanscense

If you believe in God thus you must believe in both Hell and Heaven.

How?

I believe in God. I don't believe in things like Heaven and Hell because by doing so we are jumping to conclusions. Religion and "beliefs" such as Heaven and Hell have been a major part in my life. If you don't know I was raised Catholic but have since fallen away from religion in general along with beliefs, such as Heaven and Hell which I believe separate humanity.

 
fault2k  posted on Apr 06, 2011 10:52:10 AM - Report post

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originally posted by Evanscense

If you believe in God thus you must believe in both Hell and Heaven.

How?

I believe in God. I don't believe in things like Heaven and Hell because by doing so we are jumping to conclusions. Religion and "beliefs" such as Heaven and Hell have been a major part in my life. If you don't know I was raised Catholic but have since fallen away from religion in general along with beliefs, such as Heaven and Hell which I believe separate humanity.

Then why believe in a God?

Have you developed your own set of beliefs, or is it because of a lack of explanation?

I only ask because getting the full story from someone who has broken away from mainstream faith might better provide an explanation of what beliefs are easier to follow and which aren't.

 
Latiosmaster47  posted on Apr 06, 2011 11:46:36 AM - Report post

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Personally I believe in heaven and hell and god and all that stuff. There's been too many weird spiritual type things that have gone on in my family for me not to.

I'm catholic, but I also believe in a universal karma type thing too, in that good and bad things tend to be reciprocal based on your actions and deeds.

[Edited by Latiosmaster47, 4/6/2011 11:47:37 AM]

 
fault2k  posted on Apr 06, 2011 11:53:30 AM - Report post

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originally posted by Latiosmaster47

Personally I believe in heaven and hell and god and all that stuff. There's been too many weird spiritual type things that have gone on in my family for me not to.

I'm catholic, but I also believe in a universal karma type thing too, in that good and bad things tend to be reciprocal based on your actions and deeds.

[Edited by Latiosmaster47, 4/6/2011 11:47:37 AM]

That seems kinda odd to me, are you Catholic through upbringing or did you become Catholic on your own?

 
Latiosmaster47  posted on Apr 06, 2011 11:58:09 AM - Report post

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originally posted by fault2k

quote:
originally posted by Latiosmaster47

Personally I believe in heaven and hell and god and all that stuff. There's been too many weird spiritual type things that have gone on in my family for me not to.

I'm catholic, but I also believe in a universal karma type thing too, in that good and bad things tend to be reciprocal based on your actions and deeds.

[Edited by Latiosmaster47, 4/6/2011 11:47:37 AM]

That seems kinda odd to me, are you Catholic through upbringing or did you become Catholic on your own?

Upbringing, my family's half-Irish.

 
infinite_gamer  posted on Apr 06, 2011 12:14:57 PM - Report post

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The Merrian-Webster dictionary definition of Hell is thus:

Hell:
A(1): A nether world in which the dead continue to exist:HADES
(2): The nether realm of the devil and the demons in which the damned suffer everlasting punishment.

B(1): A place or state of misery,torment,or wickedness.
(2): A place of turmoil or destruction.

Bings' dictionary definition is this:

(1) Place of punishment after death:
According to some religions,the place where the souls of people who are damned suffer eternal punishment after death.

(2) Devilish Power:
According to some religions,Satan or the powers of evil that live in HELL.

(3) Underworld:
According to some religions,the place where spirits of all people go.

(4) Suffering:
A state or place of extreme pain or misery,or something or somebody that causes extreme pain or misery.

Ok,the reason i posted those definitions is because before we answer the question of our belief in Hell,we must first understand what HEll means. Or a least an idea of what it means.

True,it means different things to different people. Depending on your beleifs/faith. This was just a generalized definition.
(no offence to anybody)

Now,as for my personal view and beliefs of hell.I don't beleive in Hell,Heaven,God or Satan. And,i will tell you why.
Iam Agnostic.Which means i beleive in something. Just not the Xian/catholic/Muslim views of the afterlife.

Again no offence to anybody.I beleive in a calm energy and a choatic energy.I beleive after we die,that we go back to the energies of the universe.
Either back to the calmness,IE:"Heaven" or the chaos,IE:"Hell"
Again,this is my personal view.I apologize in advance if i have offended anyone.

[Edited by infinite_gamer, 4/6/2011 12:15:51 PM]

 
Darkish  posted on Apr 06, 2011 1:10:41 PM - Report post

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originally posted by fault2k

Then why believe in a God?

Have you developed your own set of beliefs, or is it because of a lack of explanation?

I only ask because getting the full story from someone who has broken away from mainstream faith might better provide an explanation of what beliefs are easier to follow and which aren't.

More or less a developing of my own personal beliefs based off of experiences.

For starters, to not believe in God or some higher power which is currently beyond our understanding seems a little too far fetched for me. I look at things like the universe, our brains, humanity in general and how everything works out perfectly and it seems as though something or someone was behind the creation of everything we know of today.

Secondly, I don't believe in religion anymore because I've dealt with a lot of people pushing me away because of my fundamental beliefs in the past. Even after I matured and become more reasonable with my faith, I dealt with other people and their faiths which pushed us apart. Because of that I didn't just decide to leave Catholicism, but religion altogether.

Third, about Catholicism, I did a little investigating myself. Some examples are how Catholicism teaches things such as that homosexuality is wrong, which I believe it to be natural. There are also things taught in the Bible that cannot be found in the original Hebrew, Greek and Latin texts of the early scriptures which the Bible was derived from. Some of these teachings are the Trinity and the teaching that Jesus Christ was fully God and fully man. Both of those cannot be found in the original texts.

In conclusion I believe in God. I even believe in prayer. But I don't believe in religion telling me how to prayer or telling me what to believe or not believe in. That is where religion crosses the line. A major factor for this decision of mine has to be that I am not afraid of death or unanswered questions. And that is what religion is there to answer.

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