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ServiusTheBear  posted on Nov 14, 2010 2:06:43 AM - Report post

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If you are a fan of The original Fallout and Fallout 2, skip Fallout 3 and get Fallout: New Vegas. While Fallout 3 is a great FPS and a fun game, it does not have the "feel" of the original two games. Two of the original team were involved in making New Vegas and it shows.

Now I just need to find the Super mutant to arm wrestle and get my ballgag.

To me FO3 took it to another level. The change they Brought into it was good. The 3D first person n 3rd person system the vats. Even the story line I was good. Ok I have to admit the mother ship Zeta DLC was kinda eh suckie.

With NV they continued the story from FO2 which I love. The change of place is great. I am finding more and more I have the Guide but I aint using it unless am stuck.

 
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originally posted by Spinax444

If you are a fan of The original Fallout and Fallout 2, skip Fallout 3 and get Fallout: New Vegas. While Fallout 3 is a great FPS and a fun game, it does not have the "feel" of the original two games. Two of the original team were involved in making New Vegas and it shows.

Now I just need to find the Super mutant to arm wrestle and get my ballgag.

To me FO3 took it to another level. The change they Brought into it was good. The 3D first person n 3rd person system the vats. Even the story line I was good. Ok I have to admit the mother ship Zeta DLC was kinda eh suckie.

With NV they continued the story from FO2 which I love. The change of place is great. I am finding more and more I have the Guide but I aint using it unless am stuck.

Mothership Zeta may be the worst DLC I have ever bought, next to Witch Hunt in DA:O.

 
ServiusTheBear  posted on Nov 14, 2010 2:47:07 AM - Report post

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I read up on articals that where released on tuesday there.

Some of the replys back to it showed me people are extremly enjoying the game.

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vorpal_raddish
11/08/10

Couldn't disagree more.

New Vegas is shaping up into a true masterpiece. It's emphasis on deeper RPG mechanics are really shining so far. Hardcore mode is exactly what I was craving in FO3.

I also especially love how Bethesda and Obsidian have kept the two coasts separate. Obsidian is sticking to it's roots, and Bethesda is expanding the Fallout mythos out east.

I love it.

Shrewsbury
11/08/10

I'm 73 hours in, I finished the main quest but I'm not done with the game yet. I'm going to go back to the point of no return and continue with the exploration and questing.

This game is miles better than Fallout 3.

HardestWorker
11/08/10

Fallout New Vegas hasn’t disappointed me one bit. I made sure to not watch any trailers or anything before buying the game. I wasn’t sure if I was going to like it. Could Bethesda really out do Fallout 3? It took two or three hours to get adjusted to the game. At first I thought wow this is too similar, it is the same old thing. As I explored and did all of the new quests, I was amazed at how massive this game truly is.

My problem was trying to turn New Vegas into Fallout 3 when it is a lot different from the previous game. It is in a completely new setting with all sorts of new people and tribes. I thought I explored a lot of places, but as I got a certain perk that reveals all locations on the map I saw that I didn’t even scratch the surface. Right now I am 50 hours in my first play through and I still have no many places left to discover. This game sure gave me my monies worth.

There are some glitches and freezes of course. None of it is game breaking. Make sure you save often and just give a second for the game to load. I think the massiveness of this game overshadows minor bugs anyone will encounter. I do know the pain of the game freezing and I am sorry for people who encounter it often. How does a game freeze anyway? I heard complaints of it freezing very often but it hasn’t happened much to me.

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There is one talking abit about freezing. Me am glad that aint happened to me yet as freezing really ticks me off. But Back to some more replys.

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noamjamski
11/08/10

At first I thought I was in Fahey's boat, not feeling the game. I spent a lot of quality time with it this weekend and I'm now about 15 hours in, a level 9.

Most of the gangs and factions have *some* opinion of me. And now I'm completely sucked in. I had totally forgotten the feeling I had when playing Fallout 3. I will probably not be playing another game for the rest of the year (my play time is rather limited).

I'm on PS3, which has already seen one patch, and these are the bugs I have had so far:

-One showstopping crash about 10 hours in which required a hard reset of the PS3.

-The "awesome" bug where an enemy will not notice me so I can quickly kill with impunity.

-The "funny" bug which usually happens to mutated insects or radscorpions where they will try to follow me and get "stuck" in the terrain and I can just kill with impunity.

Honestly for how ridonculously rich in content this game is, and the astonishing amount of variables that can go on at any moment, I'm pretty forgiving of the bugs. There is so much right going on all the time, that it is not fair to dwell on some of the funkiness. I think the only way this game could have been perfect would have been to make it less ambitious.

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Here's another that go's on about bugs and he's still content to play and is forgiving cause of the size and so much that go's on.

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jkim229
11/08/10

I think I'll just wait till GOTY edition comes out next year. Seems like that's the way it's going to be with AAA games these days. Like Borderlands, Dragonage, Batman AA..etc

By then, all the DLC will be included and the bugs will be patched. Plus I can add mods (best part of playing on the pc) as well as edit stuff in the console eg. running speed. Too bad you can't do that stuff in the consoles...otherwise I would've gotten it for my xbox.

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romanmaroni
11/08/10

Credit for Fallout 3 for bringing the series forward, but beyond that, New Vegas is the superior follow-up to the original two games. The writing is fantastic and it capitalized on a lot of FO3's criticisms by fixing them and improving the product.

Kotaku mimes a lot of other journalism sites in overplaying the bug angle, presumably because it is an easy, lazy meme to stick on Obsidian. I am glad to see I am not alone in feeling there's more snark than observation in a lot of Kotaku's coverage of the matter.

I am glad New Vegas is a big success. As things hold up, I hope Bethesda looks to continue their Fallout relationship with Obsidian for future games. As a longtime Fallout fan, I could not be happier with how things have turned out with New Vegas.

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With more than five million copies shipped since the game's release, with retailers calling for more. So really its up to yourself how you wana go.

[Edited by Lord-Servius, 11/14/2010 2:52:25 AM]

 
kbernstar  posted on Nov 14, 2010 3:32:24 AM - Report post

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Black Ops has more than 5 million copies shipped on the first day and the user reviews are ripping it to shreds. I don't see how sales figures are a useful measure of how good a game is especially when there are no new games currently out for people to buy.

If you want an RPG you buy F:NV since it's the only one. If you want a shooter, you buy Black Ops because it's the only one. It doesn't matter that both of them are buggy as all hell on PC (+ XBOX for F:NV and + PS3 for Black Ops).

I could post an equally long list of people saying the game is awful.

From Bethesda's own Fallout: New Vegas forums:

Jeremiah Gorst - "Get yourself a shovel. Go to your nearest desert. Dig a hole. And bury the game there."

Maddriver07 - "Then last week the game starts crashing and or locking up (seems to crash a little different each time) every 20minutes or so."

eric45 - "I installed it, hope, cross the fingers. Play half an hour. 3 crashes. 1 freeze."

Sigurdr - "No other game I now or have ever owned (including FO3) has had this many problems out of the box!
I've tried to enjoy myself and get into the wasteland again, but these random "the instruction at ...memory could not be read" CTD errors, Runtime C++ application errors are getting on my nerves. I have NEVER experienced these issues with ANY game.. EVER!"

Pzyk3 - "'m very disappointed with this one, certainly a **** poor PC port."

derpderpderp - "Bethesda did it again. Even when I thought my expectations could not have possibly been lower since the mediocre FO3 and it's laughable DLC, they managed to amaze me yet another time by taking this game into a new low."

Gene - "Buggy POS. This game is very much in the habit of reverting quicksaves and autosaves to the first one you ever make."

darkmoose - "I do not understand how a self respecting player can give 10 points to this game. 1st It is unarguably buggy, 2nd the story is dull, repetitive, pointless, 3rd if you have any skills at all you will be disappointed how easy the whole game is."

JohnR - "Bugs galore. Very last gen graphics. Animated characters walking in thin air. How about a decent auto save system?"

ikatomas - "I'm giving this a 2. FO:NV feels like Elder Scrolls ported into Fallout 3 and given a slap of user forum content feedback veneer and released while in beta."

Or

How about some professional reviews?

Rockpapershotgun - "It can be hard to tell the difference between a lack of content and an authentically barren wasteland, but sometimes New Vegas is so impressively bold in its laziness that the distinction is clear."

1UP - "I simply can't ignore or forgive the game for crashing on me when I walk around the Mojave Wasteland; or for quests that simply can't be completed because of a game glitch; or for making my companions disappear when I need them the most during a battle. These are some of the most frustrating bugs I have ever encountered with any game, especially when attached to a series that I deeply enjoy."

Gamespot - "However, as time wears on, the constant glitches invade almost every element of the game and eventually grow wearisome."

I can cherry pick reviews too.

The game is awful. It only looks good because after 3 hours of struggling to get 45 minutes of gameplay with a game you wasted 60 bucks for, you'll gladly take anything and you cheer that something finally worked. But that doesn't matter. If you fart and it didn't smell, at the end of the day, it was still a fart.

[Edited by kbernstar, 11/14/2010 3:51:31 AM]

 
tommy6860  posted on Nov 14, 2010 3:40:01 AM - Report post

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I read up on articals that where released on tuesday there.

Some of the replys back to it showed me people are extremly enjoying the game.

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11/08/10

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I am glad New Vegas is a big success. As things hold up, I hope Bethesda looks to continue their Fallout relationship with Obsidian for future games. As a longtime Fallout fan, I could not be happier with how things have turned out with New Vegas.

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With more than five million copies shipped since the game's release, with retailers calling for more. So really its up to yourself how you wana go.

[Edited by Lord-Servius, 11/14/2010 2:52:25 AM]

As far as Vorpals opinion, I'd rather have Bethesda do the developing in the next release (of which I believe they are in Fallout 4) than Obsidian. Obsidian already has released some iffy games that didn't go over well outside of Vegas. Anyway, you're going to get those kind of reviews if you cherry pick them out for nothing but praise, that's no different than taking the whole of everyone's opinion's out of context. I bet you can find more that don't like it or mentioned some negatives about Vegas. I have been gaming since the mid-70s (yes I am that old) and I know the Fallouts as well as anyone. This game is not original and like the first two, has lots of bugs. Black Isle (what is now Obsidian) was not into much QA as a developer, but they definitely made great game play and stories.

Seriously though, you've seen many negative responses here (let alone outside of this site) regarding Vegas, including from myself and I am not bashing it because I am just simplifying some dislike of the game. Outside of the bugs, which I did expect, but not this bad.

[Edited by tommy6860, 11/14/2010 3:58:55 AM]

 
tommy6860  posted on Nov 14, 2010 3:49:30 AM - Report post

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Black Ops has more than 5 million copies shipped on the first day and the user reviews are ripping it to shreds. I don't see how sales figures are a useful measure of how good a game is especially when there are no new games currently out for people to buy.

If you want an RPG you buy F:NV since it's the only one. If you want a shooter, you buy Black Ops because it's the only one. It doesn't matter that both of them are buggy as all hell on PC (+ XBOX for F:NV and + PS3 for Black Ops).

I could post an equally long list of people saying the game is awful.

From Bethesda's own Fallout: New Vegas forums:

Jeremiah Gorst - "Get yourself a shovel. Go to your nearest desert. Dig a hole. And bury the game there."

Maddriver07 - "Then last week the game starts crashing and or locking up (seems to crash a little different each time) every 20minutes or so."

eric45 - "I installed it, hope, cross the fingers. Play half an hour. 3 crashes. 1 freeze."

Sigurdr - "No other game I now or have ever owned (including FO3) has had this many problems out of the box!
I've tried to enjoy myself and get into the wasteland again, but these random "the instruction at ...memory could not be read" CTD errors, Runtime C++ application errors are getting on my nerves. I have NEVER experienced these issues with ANY game.. EVER!"

Pzyk3 - "'m very disappointed with this one, certainly a **** poor PC port."

derpderpderp - "Bethesda did it again. Even when I thought my expectations could not have possibly been lower since the mediocre FO3 and it's laughable DLC, they managed to amaze me yet another time by taking this game into a new low."

Gene - "Buggy POS. This game is very much in the habit of reverting quicksaves and autosaves to the first one you ever make."

darkmoose - "I do not understand how a self respecting player can give 10 points to this game. 1st It is unarguably buggy, 2nd the story is dull, repetitive, pointless, 3rd if you have any skills at all you will be disappointed how easy the whole game is."

JohnR - "Bugs galore. Very last gen graphics. Animated characters walking in thin air. How about a decent auto save system?"

ikatomas - "I'm giving this a 2. FO:NV feels like Elder Scrolls ported into Fallout 3 and given a slap of user forum content feedback veneer and released while in beta."

Or

How about some professional reviews?

Rockpapershotgun - "It can be hard to tell the difference between a lack of content and an authentically barren wasteland, but sometimes New Vegas is so impressively bold in its laziness that the distinction is clear."

1UP - "I simply can't ignore or forgive the game for crashing on me when I walk around the Mojave Wasteland; or for quests that simply can't be completed because of a game glitch; or for making my companions disappear when I need them the most during a battle. These are some of the most frustrating bugs I have ever encountered with any game, especially when attached to a series that I deeply enjoy."

Gamespot - "However, as time wears on, the constant glitches invade almost every element of the game and eventually grow wearisome."

I can cherry pick reviews too.

[Edited by kbernstar, 11/14/2010 3:45:58 AM]

Well there's Medal Of Honor, which is equally crappy as COD BO.
COD is just burned out with nothing new in gameplay or style. I passed on it this time.

I have to admit now since the first huge patch and the most recent patch for Vegas that it plays much better. I still get stutters from time to time and I know it isn't my rig, because my rig would blow most rigs out of the water.

 
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Annoyingly, it plays worse after the newest patch for me so i've yet to have been able to try to continue on in the game since the longest session i've managed is 15 minutes and knowing the savegame system, I decided I would rather not risk it by spamming quick saves and new saves every 2 minutes on the off chance i'll just end up corrupting my entire game and having to start all over.

[Edited by kbernstar, 11/14/2010 3:53:45 AM]

 
ServiusTheBear  posted on Nov 14, 2010 5:02:10 AM - Report post

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quote:
originally posted by Lord-Servius

I read up on articals that where released on tuesday there.

Some of the replys back to it showed me people are extremly enjoying the game.

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vorpal_raddish
11/08/10

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I am glad New Vegas is a big success. As things hold up, I hope Bethesda looks to continue their Fallout relationship with Obsidian for future games. As a longtime Fallout fan, I could not be happier with how things have turned out with New Vegas.

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With more than five million copies shipped since the game's release, with retailers calling for more. So really its up to yourself how you wana go.

[Edited by Lord-Servius, 11/14/2010 2:52:25 AM]

As far as Vorpals opinion, I'd rather have Bethesda do the developing in the next release (of which I believe they are in Fallout 4) than Obsidian. Obsidian already has released some iffy games that didn't go over well outside of Vegas. Anyway, you're going to get those kind of reviews if you cherry pick them out for nothing but praise, that's no different than taking the whole of everyone's opinion's out of context. I bet you can find more that don't like it or mentioned some negatives about Vegas. I have been gaming since the mid-70s (yes I am that old) and I know the Fallouts as well as anyone. This game is not original and like the first two, has lots of bugs. Black Isle (what is now Obsidian) was not into much QA as a developer, but they definitely made great game play and stories.

Seriously though, you've seen many negative responses here (let alone outside of this site) regarding Vegas, including from myself and I am not bashing it because I am just simplifying some dislike of the game. Outside of the bugs, which I did expect, but not this bad.

[Edited by tommy6860, 11/14/2010 3:58:55 AM]

Yeah there are those that dont like it cause of the bugs. There are those that feel its not Original. There are those that like it not matter what about the bugs. There are those that feel the game is Original. So like I said its up to you. In all games there is people gona bash the game cause of bugs. But what can I say. Bar than what I know with mine I am very happy. But like I said its up to you the gamer if you wana play it.

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