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Now Blizzard is after the cheat makers.
 
LordLundar  posted on Oct 17, 2010 6:52:50 AM - Report post

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The owners of cheathappens had better look at their legal options now as opposed to later. Blizzard has already declared that there is no type of game play in SC2 that doesn't affect multiplayer, and the current lawsuit is simply to set a precedent in the court. When they win (and I'm sure they're using their victory over the guy that made that hack for World of Warcraft as ammo in this case), they're going to use the precedent of that case to go after the ones who can fight back, aka this site.

To make matters worse, if the shot fired by Activision doesn't shut the site down in of itself, then the subsequent lawsuits from other publishers (ubisoft and EA have also been sue-happy of late) will certainly finish the job.

 
PWizard  posted on Oct 17, 2010 7:55:10 AM - Report post

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Thanks for your "positive" words, but everything we do here is 100% legal and has been proven time and again in court in previous landmark cases against the makers of other cheat software and devices.

Like I said before, the people being targeted (and being defeated) are using part of the game's code in creating a separate instance in order to spoof the multiplayer components of the game. Nothing could be further from what we are doing with our trainers. We violate no copyright whatsoever and there is no basis for filing anything against us. The majority of game publishers actually SUPPORT our site and have since inception. We have never and will never support multiplayer hacks and we increase the replay value and subsequent value of DLCs and sequels by creating the software that we host.

If Blizzard had a problem with our trainers, then all they would have to do is contact us. We're not some anonymous hacker group hiding in the shadows of the underground internet. We've received no communication from them at all and they have made no mention of our trainers in their public statements against hackers.

[Edited by PWizard, 10/17/2010 8:15:36 AM]

 
Kman25  posted on Oct 17, 2010 2:53:34 PM - Report post


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I support this site a 100 percent it has never let me down it just seems people keep saying cheathappens trainers allow you to cheat in online games.We know for a fact they don't.
 
axlevought  posted on Oct 19, 2010 7:34:05 AM - Report post

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If Blizzard ever goes against Cheathappens, I would not buy from Blizzard after that. In fact, I would encourage my friends, coworkers, and family not to either. Blizzard has been using increasingly heavy-handed tactics over the years, so they are already annoying.

This site has been my old stand-by for many years across many games. One of the first things I do before purchasing a game is checking Cheathappens to see if it has a trainer.

 
DarkElfa  posted on Oct 19, 2010 12:38:58 PM - Report post

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I hope you're right PWizard. Those like me who bought a lifetime membership did so because we believe in you and what you do and I'd hate to see a group like Blizzard bust up what we have here. Either way, you have plenty of moral support from your loyal members.

[Edited by DarkElfa, 10/19/2010 12:39:25 PM]

 
Weeks  posted on Oct 20, 2010 5:40:41 AM - Report post

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quote:
originally posted by PWizard

Thanks for your "positive" words, but everything we do here is 100% legal and has been proven time and again in court in previous landmark cases against the makers of other cheat software and devices.

Like I said before, the people being targeted (and being defeated) are using part of the game's code in creating a separate instance in order to spoof the multiplayer components of the game. Nothing could be further from what we are doing with our trainers. We violate no copyright whatsoever and there is no basis for filing anything against us. The majority of game publishers actually SUPPORT our site and have since inception. We have never and will never support multiplayer hacks and we increase the replay value and subsequent value of DLCs and sequels by creating the software that we host.

If Blizzard had a problem with our trainers, then all they would have to do is contact us. We're not some anonymous hacker group hiding in the shadows of the underground internet. We've received no communication from them at all and they have made no mention of our trainers in their public statements against hackers.

[Edited by PWizard, 10/17/2010 8:15:36 AM]

Good to hear, PW. I saw the news on Slashdot this morning, flipping through the feed as I woke up, and thought, "God, I hope they're not going after cheat happens."

I still don't get why they'd go after single-player hackers. They're not the only ones that penalize it. Fallout: NV is disabling achievements when you use a console command.

 
crusader4321  posted on Oct 20, 2010 9:28:18 AM - Report post

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TO CH staff:

What about the possibility of coding something into your trainer that BLOCKS whatever is in SC 2 detecting trainers? If anyone can do that, you guys can!

I'm sure blizzard will patch around that eventually, but you make new versions of your trainer for each patch anyways. It would be game of cat and mouse but again you already do that to make your trainers work for each patch. This would also verify for you 100% that Blizzard is specifically targeting Cheat Happens and not the whole range of MULTIPLAYER cheats/hacks. You would be able to tell that they are specifically targeting CH trainers.

Just a thought but would be AMAZING support for CH members to not get banned on Battle.net. I would throw another membership fee at you for above and beyond support like that.

 
Neo7  posted on Oct 20, 2010 9:47:42 AM - Report post

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originally posted by crusader4321

TO CH staff:

What about the possibility of coding something into your trainer that BLOCKS whatever is in SC 2 detecting trainers? If anyone can do that, you guys can!

I'm sure blizzard will patch around that eventually, but you make new versions of your trainer for each patch anyways. It would be game of cat and mouse but again you already do that to make your trainers work for each patch. This would also verify for you 100% that Blizzard is specifically targeting Cheat Happens and not the whole range of MULTIPLAYER cheats/hacks. You would be able to tell that they are specifically targeting CH trainers.

Just a thought but would be AMAZING support for CH members to not get banned on Battle.net. I would throw another membership fee at you for above and beyond support like that.

While we have the capabilities to do that, CHU has chosen not to go down that path. The reasoning behind this is that we believe it is not illegal nor is it wrong to cheat in the single player campaign (which trainers are specifically designed for single player use only). It's our stance that two wrongs do not make a right.

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