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Now Blizzard is after the cheat makers.
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    Bes posted on Oct 16, 2010 3:01:59 PM - Report post
     
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    originally posted by AdmiralThrawn

    Did any of you actually read the article?

    Blizzard is going after people who make multiplayer hacks, not single-player trainers.

    Please do not confuse people who make hacks that run the online experience for others with people who make trainers that enhance the experience for people playing alone.

    Oh I read it alright. They are going after ANYONE who uses hacks REGARDLESS of what mode they use the hacks in.

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    Neo7 posted on Oct 16, 2010 3:24:32 PM - Report post
     
    quote:
    originally posted by Bes

    quote:
    originally posted by AdmiralThrawn

    Did any of you actually read the article?

    Blizzard is going after people who make multiplayer hacks, not single-player trainers.

    Please do not confuse people who make hacks that run the online experience for others with people who make trainers that enhance the experience for people playing alone.

    Oh I read it alright. They are going after ANYONE who uses hacks REGARDLESS of what mode they use the hacks in.

    I seriously doubt Blizzard is stupid enough to go blindly into court without proper research on a case. Even then it's only after obvious and blantant cheats most likely (i.e. maphacks). Going to court is expensive.

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    Bes posted on Oct 16, 2010 4:42:03 PM - Report post
     
    quote:
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    quote:
    originally posted by Bes

    quote:
    originally posted by AdmiralThrawn

    Did any of you actually read the article?

    Blizzard is going after people who make multiplayer hacks, not single-player trainers.

    Please do not confuse people who make hacks that run the online experience for others with people who make trainers that enhance the experience for people playing alone.

    Oh I read it alright. They are going after ANYONE who uses hacks REGARDLESS of what mode they use the hacks in.

    I seriously doubt Blizzard is stupid enough to go blindly into court without proper research on a case. Even then it's only after obvious and blantant cheats most likely (i.e. maphacks). Going to court is expensive.

    If they do wind up taking someone to court who actually did use MP cheats, more power to them. There probably are people out there who have used MP cheats, what I'm trying to say is, if they take someone to court JUST for using hacks (even if the person never touched multiplayer), they'll lose horribly.

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    Slvrbuu posted on Oct 16, 2010 5:40:24 PM - Report post
     
    I can't say that this surprises me. I've already canceled my subscription to WoW, and canceled my pre-order. I'm pretty much done with blizzard/activision until this BS stops.


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    Not only because of this, but because they can't seem to release a stable patch in ages, and then don't bother to compensate players who have lost stuff once something broke.

    [Edited by Slvrbuu, 10/16/2010 5:42:58 PM]
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    Immolare posted on Oct 16, 2010 8:05:55 PM - Report post
     
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    We think WoW is the be all, end all of MMORPGs.

    I never did. I never got addicted to WoW like a lot of other people did, I have been playing City of Heroes for years and soon I'll be doing Star Wars: The Old Republic.

    I was a Guild Wars fan for the majority of the game's lifespan. I'm going to The Old Republic as well.

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    toreador posted on Oct 16, 2010 9:24:46 PM - Report post
     
    /sigh

    They're not suing everyone who uses those hacks, they're suing the creators. Also it's for programs that give someone an advantage in online mode.

    This is not the first time Blizzard has sued people who made cheat programs. They did it for WoW Link and they won.
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    Neo7 posted on Oct 16, 2010 9:26:59 PM - Report post
     
    quote:
    originally posted by Bes

    quote:
    originally posted by Neo7

    quote:
    originally posted by Bes

    quote:
    originally posted by AdmiralThrawn

    Did any of you actually read the article?

    Blizzard is going after people who make multiplayer hacks, not single-player trainers.

    Please do not confuse people who make hacks that run the online experience for others with people who make trainers that enhance the experience for people playing alone.

    Oh I read it alright. They are going after ANYONE who uses hacks REGARDLESS of what mode they use the hacks in.

    I seriously doubt Blizzard is stupid enough to go blindly into court without proper research on a case. Even then it's only after obvious and blantant cheats most likely (i.e. maphacks). Going to court is expensive.

    If they do wind up taking someone to court who actually did use MP cheats, more power to them. There probably are people out there who have used MP cheats, what I'm trying to say is, if they take someone to court JUST for using hacks (even if the person never touched multiplayer), they'll lose horribly.

    You should re-read that article more carefully (and I see I'm not the only person to tell you this so you really should go re-read it). It clearly states the people being sued are the creators of the hack and have been selling it to other users.

    [Edited by Neo7, 10/16/2010 9:28:49 PM]

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    Kman25 posted on Oct 16, 2010 10:46:49 PM - Report post
     
    Funny you say that here is a post from another forum its not my opinion.


    (Essentially, all this crying comes off as people complaining about something they haven't taken the trouble to understand.

    1.) Blizzard warned everyone back in September that it would be banning anyone who was "cheating or using hacks or modifications in any form."

    2.) This isn't even a permanent ban. It's a two-week suspension.

    But even if 1.) and 2.) WEREN'T true... frankly, it'd still be pretty justified.

    The way SC2 is set up, the major incentive reward (other than victory for victory's sake) is the different portraits you can unlock for your account. So that when someone sees you, they go "ooh, he's won 500 games as Zerg" or "ooh, he's done all the super-hard achievements on the super-hardest difficulty." If Blizzard has any vested interest in preserving the integrity of its system, as Microsoft does with its gamerscore, for instance - and it DOES - then it needs to take action on people who cheat it. Otherwise the people who earn said rewards fairly end up feeling like, "Well why did I try to do this when I could have just cheated?"

    As I understand the matter, the only difference between the cheats that the people who got suspended were using and Blizzard's already-implemented in-game cheats is that the Blizzard cheats disable achievements and the third-party hack does not. Ergo, the only reason to use the third-party hack is... to get achievements. You wouldn't do it if that wasn't your entire goal in the first place.

    This isn't about, "Oh, what if you just want to hack the game to make your units move really fast or play around with things?" You can do that in the offline Guest mode, which isn't attached to your profile (which means you can't get achievements). The fact that they were doing this logged in, with a trainer that specifically let you cheat to get achievements, shows that they went into this with a purpose.

    They were trying to game the system, and Blizzard dropped the hammer - as it had explicitly warned people it would. This is completely justified.

    You can cheat/hack the offline game as much as you want. They can't ever take your offline mode away from you. But the moment you start intentionally trying to mess with the entire multiplayer system of incentives and rewards, you get what's coming to you.

    Edit: Oh, and ***** is totally right that the CheatHappens site has a vested financial interest in making this story seem like the Big Bad Wolf vs. the Valiant Underdog. They're selling hacks to the game, and they can't do that if Blizzard is banning people for it. Remember what happened the last time somebody did that?)


    People think were terrible for supporting this site.

    [Edited by Kman25, 10/16/2010 10:47:49 PM]
     
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