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Blizzard Bans Single Player Cheaters
 
Asphedus  posted on Jan 30, 2011 4:51:33 PM - Report post

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Does anyone have a final verdict on the consequences of using a trainer?

Can I use CHEATHAPPEN's trainers and not get banned by playing on SP ONLY, and restarting the game and closing the trainer to play multiplayer?

 
wraithkrown  posted on Feb 01, 2011 12:53:24 PM - Report post

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Asphedus, I would like to know too. I just bought SC2, and can not afford to throw away $60. Can anyone help us out? Does any one use the current trainer for SP only, and has not been banned?
 
Fruitloopy  posted on Feb 02, 2011 4:17:37 PM - Report post

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I'm just going to say this. I use trainers all the time on non multiplayer always games. But, when you install the game you always say that you "Agree" (by agree I mean scrolled to the bottom and clicked "Accept" The license agreement. I think all license agreements state that you may not use 3rd party programs or cheats to modify game play.

[quote]Grant of a Limited Use License. Subject to your agreement to and continuing compliance with
this License Agreement, Blizzard hereby grants, and you hereby accept, a limited, non-transferable,
non-sublicensable, non-exclusive license to (a) install the Game on one or more computers owned by you
or under your legitimate control, (b) use the Game in conjunction with the Service for your noncommercial
entertainment purposes only, subject to the terms of Section 2(c) below; and (c) to make and distribute
copies of the Game to other potential users free of any charge for use solely on the Service. All use of the
Game, or any copy of the Game, is subject to this License Agreementand to the Terms of Use, both of which
must be accepted before the Game can be played.
2. Additional License Limitations. The license granted to you in Section 1 above is subject to the
limitations set forth in Sections 1 and 2 (collectively, the “License Limitations”). Any use of the Game in
violation of the License Limitations will be regarded as an infringement of Blizzard’s copyrights in and to the
Game. You agree that you will not, under any circumstances:
a. In whole or in part, copy or reproduce (except as provided herein),translate, reverse engineer,
derive source code from, modify, disassemble, decompile, or create derivative works based on
the Game;
b. Use cheats, automation software (bots), hacks, or any other unauthorized third-party software
designed to modify the Game experience, including without limitation, mods that violate the
terms of this License Agreement or the Terms of Use;

c. Exploit the Game or any of its parts for any commercial purpose without Blizzard’s express
permission, with the sole exception that you may use the Game, or copies of the Game, on the
Service at a cyber cafe, computer gaming center or any other location based site; [/quote]

[quote]8. Consent to Monitor. WHEN RUNNING, THE GAME MAY MONITOR YOUR COMPUTER’S RANDOM
ACCESS MEMORY (RAM) FOR UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAMS RUNNING CONCURRENTLY WITH
THE GAME. AN “UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM” AS USED HEREIN SHALL BE DEFINED AS ANY
THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE PROHIBITED BY SECTION 2. IN THE EVENT THAT THE GAME DETECTS AN UNAUTHORIZED
THIRD PARTY PROGRAM, THE GAME MAY (a) COMMUNICATE INFORMATION BACK TO BLIZZARD,
INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION YOUR ACCOUNT NAME, DETAILS ABOUT THE UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY
PROGRAM DETECTED, AND THE TIME AND DATE; AND/OR (b) EXERCISE ANY OR ALL OF ITS RIGHTS UNDER
THIS AGREEMENT, WITH OR WITHOUT PRIOR NOTICE TO THE USER.
9. Termination. This License Agreement is effective until terminated. You may terminate this License
Agreement at any time by providing notice to Blizzard customer service via email at support@blizzard.com,
at which time Blizzard will remove your license to use the Game from the Account. Blizzard may terminate
this Agreement at any time for any reason or no reason. Upon termination, all licenses granted herein shall
immediately terminate and you must promptly remove the Game from your hard drive. [/quote]

I'm not pro douchebag and I'm not pro cheater, but when you use a trainer, you effectivly break the law, and the fact that this site charges money for the trainers, you know, not really 100% great. I realise I will get hate, and you must realise that I couldn't care less.

Don't whine about not being able to do what you said you wouldn't and get in trouble for it.

 
Neo7  posted on Feb 02, 2011 4:46:13 PM - Report post

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That clause is also inside Brood War's EULA and yet they fully support the ICCUP software and private servers that allow pirated keys to be hosted. They don't belong to Blizzard nor do they have any control of its development. They need to correct their EULA because there's some obvious grey area.

In fact, the Korean courts recently ordered Blizzard to make their EULAs more clear before they can proceed with their prosecution. If they're going to enforce it, the least they can do is be consistant and clear with what they want.
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wraithkrown  posted on Feb 06, 2011 6:49:46 AM - Report post

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Is breaking a contract against the law now?

The problem with EULA's are you have to open the box to read them, and once you do, you can no longer get a refund.

Maybe when I become filthy rich I'll take one of these gaming companies to court about it.

Thank you for posting your opinion.

 
jack_deth  posted on Feb 06, 2011 1:53:23 PM - Report post

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"I'm not pro douchebag and I'm not pro cheater, but when you use a trainer, you effectivly break the law, and the fact that this site charges money for the trainers, you know, not really 100% great. I realise I will get hate, and you must realise that I couldn't care less.

Don't whine about not being able to do what you said you wouldn't and get in trouble for it."

Nonsense. Just because it's in the EULA doesn't mean it's in any way enforceable.

I could easily place a clause in my EULA that states you must mutilate your genitalia in a wood chipper if you don't hop on one leg while patting your head and screaming rubber baby buggy bumpers at the top of your lungs each time prior to playing the game. That doesn't mean it's in any way enforceable, as clearly that clause is against the law.

EULA's simply haven't been challenged much outside of an odd Autodesk claim about resale of software.

What Blizzard is doing is unacceptable. As long as I'm not cheating in multiplayer, it should be of no concern to them how I use my purchased software so long as I'm not infringing upon their trademarks, copyrights, or stepping on their financial toes. This nonsense really reeks of Bobby Scumbag's stink finger.

[Edited by jack_deth, 2/6/2011 1:54:10 PM]

 
umblikal  posted on Feb 06, 2011 9:55:51 PM - Report post

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Oh, I didn't notice they were banning people. I played the game (SP) many times with the trainer when it was first out, finished it and never played again. Just out of curiousity I even once tried map reveal option in MP but connection to the server was reset so I never tried it again. Today I was just curious with my new GPU and decided to reinstall it. My account was active. But I'm not %100 sure if it was suspended in the last 3 months.

I can not understand the reasoning for bans. The game is boring with no replayability value. Their actions just contribute to illegal warez and shows the importance of the balancing activities of the hacker groups against unethic actions of companies. Yes, thanx to them banned players can play the game without paying 60$ again. Losing the MP aspect of the game is not much importance for me or many SP lover users.

Also steam has achievements too, but they do not ban anyone for trainers in SP. If they do such a thing, steam will be finished in hours. Blizzard seems to have taken a step but to an empty elevator hole. They just lowered their massive sale for new comer Diablo III.

[Edited by umblikal, 2/6/2011 10:00:45 PM]

[Edited by umblikal, 2/6/2011 10:03:36 PM]

 
tpapa  posted on Feb 09, 2011 11:42:00 AM - Report post

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I used the trainer right when the game came out and racked up close to 2000 achievement points (while online), I was not once banned/suspended, if that speaks for anything. I did this all before they released a statement saying they would suspend/ban people who did this.

Now as much as I did I guess "get away with it," I'm currently to hesitant to try it again.

NOTE: I never once tried to use the trainer on MP matches, only in the Campaign and the Challenges.

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